-Congratulations on the film. -Thank you.
-I know it's your directorial debut, also, your writing debut.
You co-wrote it with it your wife, Zoe Kazan.
-Mm-hmm.
-And I'm always fascinated by the process of people
who collaborate on writing.
As a married couple, how did you figure out?
Were you sitting in a room together
at the same time working on it?
-No. So, I think most people imagine, right,
somebody standing and pacing behind the computer.
The other person's typing away and you're just having an --
that, I mean, simply would not work in a --
when we live together and go to bed together
and wake up together.
We actually discovered a super natural work flow
which I hope we get to do again someday,
which is we simply traded drafts back and forth.
So I would take it away for a while.
We'd go over it.
We'd be each other's editor in a way.
And then she would take it.
And it was really actually fun.
-Did you ever have to watch the other person read the draft?
Because that would be very stressful.
-Yeah, but I learned my lesson the first draft I wrote.
-Uh-huh.
-I waited for her to read it.
It was an eternity.
And she had a lot of notes.
[ Laughter ]
-So, Carey Mulligan, who's one of the stars
and is fantastic in it.
You sent it to her.
She did not wait a long time to read it.
-No, probably the fastest read I'll ever have.
I mean, luckily I know Carey, so I could call her.
I said, "Hey, I'm gonna send you the script tonight."
And the next morning she called
and she was all in from the get-go.
And she is a really great actor.
So to have somebody like that respond that immediately
to the character, to the script, was just a great burst of energy
and was such an important step in the process.
-Yeah, because nothing is worse than when you give somebody
something to read,
if each day that passes you just, in your head,
think that they're coming up with a way to phrase
how little they liked it.
-Totally. [ Laughter ]
-Yeah. -Well, also being friends.
You know, when we have to let somebody down, it's the worst.
You know she'd be pacing around her room.
"Oh, I got to go call Paul and let go of this somehow."
And so, yeah.
-You shot in Oklahoma and Montana.
It's a beautiful film.
I know you and Zoe went out to the Northwest.
Did you drive out there?
-So we did -- The family in the film moves from Lewiston, Idaho,
to Great Falls, Montana.
So we thought, "Let's go do the road trip that the family does."
A beautiful part of the country.
So we took, like, a little vacay writing trip,
stayed in bed and breakfasts.
So, Zoe wanted to go on a hike one day out to this waterfall
we heard about. -Are you hiking people?
-No. -Okay.
-We live in Manhattan. [ Laughter ]
-You live in Manhattan. Yeah, that's not --
-We're city dwellers. -Yes, okay, gotcha.
-And it's, like, bear season, apparently.
It's like end of August, early September.
-Yeah, that would be something I wouldn't know.
I would have to be told. Yeah.
-No, we were told this. -Okay, gotcha.
-But the bears are apparently, like, storing up for the winter.
So they're hungry. They know what's coming.
So I asked the woman at the bed and breakfast,
"Hey, we're gonna for this hike. You know, the bears?"
And she happened to be a woman
who worked at the San Diego Zoo for, like, 30 years.
She said, "Well, you don't want to run into a bear
because they pin you down and peel you like a banana."
-Uh-huh. [ Laughter ]
-She was like, "If you're gonna run into something, you know,
a lion is better because they go straight for your throat."
[ Laughter ]
I was like, "Thanks." [ Laughter ]
-Yeah, this seems wildly unhelpful. Yeah.
-So, I said to Zoe, I was like, "Let's go to, like,
the mountaineering store, the trail store."
See, I don't even know what to call the store one goes to,
to like, buy, you know, hiking apparel.
-Both of those sounded pretty good. Yeah.
-And I said, "Let's go talk to them."
And I said, "Hey, the bears." You know.
"You know, do I worry about this?"
And they said, "No, you know, like, don't shower --
I mean, don't shampoo, condition,
don't wear deodorant, you know.
And if you're on your womanly times, you know,
they can smell that."
And I looked at Zoe, and that morning she had taken a bath,
shampoo, conditioner, deodorant.
[ Laughter ]
She had put on sun screen on every inch of her body.
And she was on her period.
-There you go. [ Laughter ]
That's the hat trick for bears right there.
[ Laughter ]
-You know, it was like a cartoon
when my wife turned into this little edible bear treat.
[ Laughter ]
You know, and they said,
"Just make a lot of noise as you walk."
So we started on our hike.
And so, she's having a great time bopping around the trails.
And I'm just seeing her, like, this animated bear treat.
[ Laughter ]
And so every 5 to 10 seconds I was just shouting, "Yo, bear!"
[ Laughter ]
Just kind of letting them know I was here.
-That sounds like the least relaxing hike
that's ever been taken.
-I'm so embarrassed to say that I was terrified the whole time.
-Yeah, no. I think that is very accurate.
And I think you behaved the right way
and you both made it back.
And congratulations. You just had a baby girl.
So everything worked out great.
-Yeah. [ Cheers and applause ]
-And congratulations on the film. It's really wonderful.
Thank you so much for being here. Paul Dano, everybody.
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