There are issues such as.
I mean the simplest one that comes to mind is Clothing. How does one dress and forget even brothers
and sisters how does the clergy expect itself to dress. Every single movement of traditional Islam How does the clergy
in that movement dress. Frankly they all dress according to the historical norms of a particular manifestation of
Islam, in a particular Muslim majority land, in a particular century or era and for them this becomes religiosity.
You understand what I'm saying here right so you go to one version of traditionalists Islam
and you should wear the white "Kurta shalwar" that say and if you don't wear it
and I speak from experience you will not give the "Khutbah".
In another version of traditionalist islam, you have to wear the "thobe".
And yet another versions are going to be the "Jellabiya" and the other forth there's got to be should this and that
and this is the narrative that there are completely familiar with so that when somebody comes along
and dresses "Ahem" differently
this person is automatically dismissed, that you can't possibly be a part of the scholarly community because they
have not found their scholarly community being upon that paradigm. Yet again to be very practical and
realistic one could argue and this is my opinion and not just my opinion within in many of them
[ ] amongst them; that there "Sunnah"y
when it comes to dressing, is to accommodate the culture of your people as much as possible, as long as the "shariah" allows you
you to do so
to do so. And that the "Prophet (PBUH)" did not come with the fashion revolution, think about it
now I'm being dead serious here, he did not come with a fashion revolution. What was he wearing exactly what the pagans of
"Macca" ware wearing. Exactly what "Abu Jahl" was wearing, exactly
Was "Umon ibna hattaf RA" was wearing. Because that's the dominant culture of his times so for somebody to come
and codify one particular culture the process
are never saw the types of clothing that are common in many tradition, even the "thobe" that we might think is the closest to
the "Sunnah" you're really going to tell me this fine fancy material with this fabric and this couplings
and the perfectly tailored garment you want to really follow the [ ]
And so we're together with rough harsh wool and the garment is going to be totally That's the one "Sunnah"
but that's not the "Sunnah" that our prophet wanted us to follow he didn't tell us dressed like this
or dress like that and the fact and again the
another example is sister's "Hijab". The way that women historically in Indonesia
and Malaysia wear the "Hijab" is very different than the way that Nigerian sisters wear the "Hijab" which is very
different than the way that "Moroccan" sisters or the Saudi sisters or that
"Afghani" sisters so for us to assume that the Saudi Hijab is the only legitimate Hijab this is a mistake
there's nothing wrong with organically developing wait for it a British Hiajb.
Because and here's what I ask you if it's halal for the Nigerian Muslims to have a Nigerian hijab
and its halal out for Indonesians and for Moroccans and for Pakistanis
and for what not, for what not; why then does it become Haram when another culture of Muslims which is all of us in this
audience try to do the same thing within our own cultural paradigm
and again this is the difference between reformist
and between if you like traditionalist right, so this is the traditionalist Muslims yes they have a lot of good in them
and clearly they identify with observable symbols that have been associated with Islam wearing the "Kurta" wearing the "Thobe"
has become identifiable in large parts of the world as being a Muslim so by putting it here it makes them feel
comfortable but it's not necessarily in this case it is not a part.
Of the religion that "Allah" and his messenger wanted everybody to follow and there has been
and there is leeway now let me talk about the last one
and I will go back to a bit more examples the reformists, the reformists are those who are sympathetic to the tradition
and they're not they don't have any unfairly complex
to the dominant culture, they know that veganism is a temporary fad that it was introduced 20 years ago
and maybe 50 years from now is going to be gone they have no infuriating complex at the same time they're not
entirely dismissive of it either just because you UKV
Is vegan doesn't mean veganism and all of its opinions
and forms is invalid, maybe there's some truth to it, just because our forefathers weren't vegan does not mean it's
wrong. No, let's look at it and they discover you know what it actually is healthier to have more fruits
and vegetables in your diet it actually is healthier to minimize eat you know what it's good to treat animals nicely
and yes our religion tells us to sacrifice in a humane fashion so they actually adopt elements of veganism.
They adopt points of veganism that their forefathers did not do and it's not found in the classical tradition
and they will say there's nothing wrong with fine tuning for our culture and the fact of course that.
The issue of clothing
and women's Hijab comes up that the reformist try to contextualize that each of your movements that also
contextualize traditionalist Islam why is wearing a "Kurta" so important to you because in 1857
when the mutiny took place
and there was a big divide amongst Indian Muslims one of the ways to tell whether you're pro British
or anti British was the clothing
and the dress that you wore so they made it a factor that you have to wear this clothing why is the "thobe" particular
to you, so the historicize each movement and the positives and negatives of the movement
and this of course means that reformists the last category are unpopular amongst all the other group
Because they're attacked from all sides the traditionalist view them as being problematic because they're not faithful
to the tradition. As understood by the traditionalist I clear right
when you criticize "Biryani" it becomes criticizing the "Sunnah" you understand this point
when you criticize wearing a thobe
or Kurta which I do criticize I say it is against the "Sunnah" against the "Sunnah" to make it a point to wear a "salwar kameez"
in London when you think that there's a more Islam
if you just want to wear it for your own culture of course is halal
but you want to wear it to make a point to be more Islamic. No, Islam is not in the "Kurta" Islam is
not in the "thobe" rather you are sticking out for no reason
and our processor wanted to conform as much as possible so that there's some familiarity with the culture.
Right, I give examples of this that
when our prophets (PBUH) receive delegations from other places the "Hadith" say; he would dress up in a
Yemeni cloak.
Who told him that wearing a Yemeni cloak was dressing up for seventh century Arabia he invent this
or was this the norms of his time that if you want to dress up you were a cloak from Yemen of course the answer is that
it was the norm of his time that dressing up means you put on the Yemeni cloak you have that shawl that's a beautiful
shawl from Yemen
and this is considered dressing up in our times it's not dressing in a Yemeni cloak it's dressing in a suit
it up this is dressing up so when he's giving "Dawah" to the delegations you dress up what is giving "Dawah"
when our times how are you going to bring about so you see here's the point the more different you are then
when you come with a different theology you're dismissed as being different whereas
when you speak the same language why did "Allah" send every prophet with the same language
when you dressed in the same clothes.
When you are a part of the system and that's what "Allah" says [ ]
their brotherhood their brother "Shoyeb" want to them. It's somebody they know somebody they
can be familiar with, then you come with a different religion and you're not that exotic.
And this in my opinion is the goals of Islam. So when I come along and I say, in fact clerics especially
when they stand in front of non Muslim audiences should dress up according to the standards of our times yes people are
will attack and they say look at this guy he's still dressing in Plantation what type of scholars this right
when I make it a point not to wearing a "Tope" and I don't typically wear a "Tope" even
when I'm bald after "Hajj". I don't typically wear "Tope" because in my humble opinion covering the head is something completely
cultural or process
and he did it. He never commanded people to do it. There's no authentic "Hadith" he commanded people to do it this was the
cultural norms pagan, Muslim they all cover their heads just like one hundred years ago in England
and in America all people covered their heads didn't they all men cover their heads that was white people did it's a not
cultural thing if you want to dress like that, fine, if you think it's Islamic I think that's a problem in
this land, back home is another issue.
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