hi everyone I'm Evening Ransom and this is
evening TV. This is a video that I wish I wasn't making. This is a video that I
didn't want I don't want to be making. I've deleted my last two videos. I
put up a video from Puerto Vallarta where I was anticipating going
to a meet-up and I took that down because it was cutting out stuff like
that and my message the message was just step outside of your comfort zone. So I
went ahead and I made a video about getting outside your comfort zone and I
used the example of my going to the meetup as an example of my doing that.
it's like I made it expecting that there was gonna be another video made by the
channel that held the Meetup but that didn't happen and so by leaving
my video up it looks like I'm going along with what happened and
so I swear I don't really talk I don't talk about meetup at all on my video I
just use it as an example that I went and I went outside my comfort zone and
and I still stand by go ahead your comfort zone was a good thing to do and
I'm still doing that by making this video I'm still going outside my comfort
zone fortunately unfortunately for me it was
way more outside of my comfort zone just say nothing okay let me also preface
this by saying my channel is small my channel is small this message is big
this message is really really big and I have contacted the biggest channels
about five or so of the biggest channels that there are on this topic on
narcissistic abuse, this community here and I'm hoping that at least one of
them will will feature this story because it is a really important story.
And otherwise, otherwise the story you know I don't have the reach to get it
out there. And also those of you watching my channel, if my channel runs into a bunch
of problems after this happens you'll know why. I'm perfectly willing to, I
mean I am... Here's the thing, I have had a really hard life.
I've been through a lot of things. I have lost... at some point in my life I
have lost
everything that I loved and cared about. all I had left was the truth
and love and if I give up those things I've got
nothing. So you know, it isn't a choice for me. You know, it isn't a choice for me
when something happens I can't not say something. I can't just let it go by and
not say something. Unfortunately not everybody is
is that way.
So this video is about truth. Integrity.
It is about protecting yourself from the people that you listen to. Listening to
your own inner guidance system, and forgiving yourself for mistakes and
moving on. So in one of those videos I made I made a point of
that that you know you need to let people in you do you need to let people
in you need to try things I don't regret anything that I've done ahead of time
towards might happen yet but but you know I don't regret going out and trying
things but you have to be discerning and you have to be able to change things up
in a minute if you if you figure out that you're not in the right place well
this happened at this meet up I would say immediately I had some red flags
going up pretty pretty severe red flags going up but you know I was willing to
it was nothing I couldn't I couldn't you know live with until the next day and
what basically ended up happening is there was basically a a person who came
to the met up, and now this was a small group. Not very many people came. It
was I think a total of four American women came and a British couple
came, and then I was there with my husband
already in Puerto Vallarta and just coordinated coming to be part of it.
Coming to hook up, you know, so I could be part of it since I was there. There
were two youtube creators that appeared to be doing it somewhat
together or they were friends or whatever.
She had been singing his praises for many many videos in a row and just really
talking this guy up and his channel was growing really fast and and together the two of
them have many times many times the subscribers that I have. My
channel is not a big threat to them, but I still have 7,000 people that are
listening to me and so I care about that. and I care about I can't I need to say
something and I need to do all that I can do I need to do all that I can do
and so I've contacted bigger channels and I need make this message and if my
channel disappears or if you start seeing that I have tons of thumbs downs
or if you start saying random people making all kinds of negative weird
comments you'll know that I'm being attacked by these people because I
haven't come to discover that that's this kind of stuff that they do
these were vulnerable people vulnerable people who had been abused who were
relatively new in their recovery I mean like you know some of them were still
with the people some really actively involved in their lives still with the
abusers and one person in particular had just she just had her experience just in
it just six months ago okay young woman traveling alone - she was just really
threatened really threatened and really intimidated and a bunch of really
inappropriate things were said to her and all this stuff by this person who
was posing as a life coach who is clearly disordered in some way and
I'm not in any position to make any sort of diagnosis so I'm not going to make a
diagnosis but from what I saw and when I from what I've been told of what I
believe but I absolutely believe it's true and by the way _ also believes
it's true or pretended to because she was going on and on about how terrible
it is and what needs to happen and how what a violation and blah blah blah, and then she
did nothing. I told her I would support her
if she came out and separated herself from this other channel said you know I
was wrong and made a mistake you know I can't support this channel anymore and
here's why and I said I would stand behind her if she did that and I was
stunned and amazed and so disappointed when I saw the video that she put up
because she didn't mention his name at all she mentioned me barely and then she
just went on and on about what how about friendship it was such a sham it was a
complete and total sham because anyone was not friendly it was _ because the
way that she treated this poor woman was not friendly
and well you know frankly there wasn't much friendly
at all from the minute that you know and I was you know I was I was but this is
my my first experience meeting another youtuber that does is it my first it's
actually my first was my first experience actually I'm meeting a person
someone who write you know camera out and said I've been have had this happen
I know what I know what this is about so I was excited about it and actually
all of us were there was one thing we all had in common is we were all excited
about that and the one thing I also had one thing I really realized and coming
to this thing was you know hearing how a lot of viewers really look at the people
that they see on YouTube and I'm not saying anyone sees me this way but but
because you really really looked up to them and she can talk about all this
great friendship and stuff and I don't know what she's talking
about because people that I'm in contact with went to this thing with never in a
million years ago back well aren't watching your channel
anymore are they sadly distance themselves from YouTube completely feel
more alone and isolated than ever they feel really betrayed and I don't blame
them I don't blame them at all for feeling a trick it was really an awful
thing because you know here's the thing I got I got what the King was doing it
so that was a really great thing to put herself out there and you know try and
have this event and I you know I wanted to participate in it because I want to
support friend doing that because I do I do agree that we are we all all are
isolated and it would be really great to come out of that but
and and I will say that with the other people with the other people that came I
do have friendships I mean I did actually
after this whole you terrible thing happened if you think about what we were
gonna do about it I came to really care about them and I and I believe that they
trust me
but the meetup itself was a fiasco
it was not safe and
there was a lot about these YouTube creators that
uhh
so I'm not gonna go surprised to say that she was predatory or trying to do
anything on purpose but certainly she was unhealed and the thing that the
thing that really really bothered me was that once this thing happened and this
poor woman came there and had this terrible thing that went on for two days
with this crazy guy who's now even while he's doing that he's there in his room
making video uploading videos trying to answer people's questions and here's the
thing that I know I know we want to be right I know how much we want to be
right and so anyone that watches those channels if you're watching this you're
not gonna want to believe me because you're gonna you know you go oh no I uh
you know I followed the iPhone those people for a year or two years you know
I thought it they've given me counseling services whatever I paid them money and
once you're invested like that you want to be right about it you don't want to
be wrong cuz it's a huge betrayal and you don't want to be duped in it nobody
wants that i Kelly it's just like it's just like when you try and you try and
go tell somebody about the the abuse you've experienced and no one believes
you I totally get it I don't expect a big response here about
how anyone's gonna go oh my god you know thank God for telling me I know I know
that's not gonna happen that's why I resent I kind of resent the position I'm
in because there's nothing good to come for me
there's nothing good from this to come to me this can really
only you know only be back for me you know it's like I didn't need this I went
there to support can't you know support camp could make a friend you know be
friendly and also because I was thinking you know I'm moving to Mexico that was
possibly could be the place I'm gonna go and I would maybe have a friend there
you know that was seriously what I was thinking when I went and I couldn't say
that I knew probably within twenty minutes of meeting her that that wasn't
gonna happen that we were not going to be friends and then after this happened
I wouldn't trust her with anything because she is willing to sacrifice the
truth she's willing to sacrifice people that trusted her people that she's
responsible for she's willing to sacrifice their well-being to not admit
she's wrong which is who does that sound like and to you know protect whatever
whatever thing she's got going on there or whatever you know if it's if she's
concerned about money she's making if she's concerned about you know I tried
you know I tried to say you know I really believe that now that those
things happen the very best thing you can do is just come out and be honest
about it separate yourself from him and you're gonna be fine but that's not what
she's done and so they're what I have no choice I mean my
my choices were to either do nothing and then I mean what in which case I am
doing something you you know you can't there is no not communicating right I'm
communicating something if I say nothing I am communicating I'm enabling it I'm
enabling what happened and so what this essentially was was that whether she Kim
actually said she's sovereign flags and then once this all came out she
basically started talking about things that she knew about that he was doing
and so definitely it had I been in her she's already known he was a problematic
person because he had problematic behaviors and before this was happening
and frankly so did she and and admitted those because I don't
think she recognized that they were problematic I'm not sure but
at some point I'll share this whole story about what happened it didn't
happen to me so I'll say that it didn't happen to me I have to meet up by the
way here's something everyone that came never got together one time a mess and
the main thing was that there was a predator invited in and told and told to
vulnerable people that this is someone you can trust
I vouch for him and then he abused somebody
and she knew about it and did nothing after so after promoting his channel
after bilious Tamela and I just think that's absolutely wrong and I did not
expect that she would do nothing I expected there her saying something was
a given was a given and you know what she never took responsibility she kept
saying she kept talking to the group but what we are gonna do Mike you know the
group doesn't have to do anything these poor victims don't have to do anything
they came now because they trusted you you were responsible you invited this
guy here you vouched for him I'm gonna say something I feel sort of responsible
because I'm a youtuber I'm a YouTube creator I've said that I'm gonna be at
this Meetup and so I feel responsible for saying something about what happened
you know but I that was sort of self-imposed you know I don't I don't I
could have easily if I was looking for a way to weasel out of my responsibilities
here I probably could have come up with it but definitely she was responsible
and in the meantime you know since this has happened at least dozens dozens of
people at least have signed up for him you signed up with with both of them or
you know whatever and you know I just I now watched him grow he's going to
twice my size since she's been supporting his channel and um I was you
know I was like I I was more power to him I thought that it was it was fine it
was great you know I um you know I knew about their sort of marketing agreement
because I was offered I was offered to do something at the same you know the
same kind of thing and and because I don't charge for any of my services I
don't you know I charge anything I can really justify that kind of a cost you
know I didn't earn that kind of a coffee it's someone else to promote my channel
and so and I you know I basically kind of also really affected when you're your
thing you're doing is this you know it's not okay it's not like I'm mom you know
selling something I mean we're talking about we're talking about life here yeah
we're talking about the life and you know right and wrong and you know things
like that as we're talking about here and so I just really hoped and believed
that that most of us were in it for the there most of us real point was we just
wanted to spread the word about this problem we just wanted people to know
about narcissistic abuse we just wanted to help victims to heal and we just
wanted to get people to be aware of what this thing was Mabel identify it you
know that's what I you know fruit to me the bigger people got the more people
that came on here I was the how was happy about it because that meant we
were closer to my goal my personal goal was that we could spread the word about
nurses to get views it wasn't my personal gain it wasn't about how many
subscribers I have it wasn't about any of that it was about a mind making a
living there's not any of that and and so it never you know never
bothered me when more people came on and remind me of other people who faster
than me it didn't grow none of that but you know my only thing it bothered me
about that was that I want to make sure I was doing something people wanted
people wanted you know I wanted to make sure that I was giving you what was
needed and so that was that was the only thing that um that bothered me about you
know if I wasn't growing very fast or whatever is is that I you know that
meant maybe I wasn't providing the things I already wanted but you know I I
don't know I don't know what what I really don't know actually the formula
what it is that you guys exactly want and why certain channels grow faster
than others I really honestly can't say that I know I know that I know that I
read a little every tricky cell because you know I had some pretty heavy stuff
happen you know I was her talking about her son that died I was here talking
about you know some pretty pretty dark stuff and I in might a lot of my videos
are a lot more can I story time kind of videos talking about my life and that
kind of thing and less about you know here's five ways to this day was is that
and you you know that it was less about that less about my be necessarily a
teacher more on my being a friends and and so it was a little bit a little bit
different in that way but you know I you know and I figured that but you know I'm
I have a work I was studying steady growth and it was okay with me I didn't
care I'm right you know like I said I'm not I'm not trying to make living off of
this I'm not trying to it wasn't about that for me and I felt like I feel like
that really kind of corrupts things you know once you know what you're gonna you
know you're getting people to pay you to promote them I don't know it just seems
like it's too easy to easily corruptible especially if
now especially if you don't have a really good code you know my codes
pretty ingrained because you go through some stuff like I've gone through you're
tested you know I mean this is no test you know I mean this is no test for me
compared to what I've been through there isn't
I'm not scared of him him and David I'm not scared of them make it you know how
can how could they you know what do you take for me yeah I've already been taken
you know there's no there's no threat they have over me so you know but but I
could tell you what if I didn't speak up I and I compromise my integrity and I
and I was part of what's happening in there I was and I was involved with you
know not saying something and knowing that someone was an abuser and then
someone else gets harmed and they're going to they are going to because it
was a clear sign that he's you know not stable not stable at all and so you know
he is a threat and he's a danger and oh I I would have to say Kim as to because
she willing to sacrifice the truth willing to sacrifice people for what she
wants I offered my place up for an a meet and greet to happen on the first
night her subscribers to these three women showed up on my doorstep and we
had a great time but she never showed up and then when they left I said you know
basically our tea was over and knock knock and it was like the second
wave and it was us just ended up being really kind of a nightmare really kind
of a nightmare and I've got the guts to say something
so I'm saying something I couldn't live with myself any other way and so you
know if my channel goes down the ball of flames I'm sorry people who is fungal it
lasted you know but as long as I'm here you can trust me to tell you the truth
and the truth is that there are people on YouTube who are putting themselves
out there as pillars of the community and as healers that are dangerous that
are threats that are unhealed and you know it is really tricky it is really
really tricky because you um because we know that a lot of us have gone to you
can't use credentials of it as an as a measuring stick because a lot of us have
gone to the phd's and all that and they didn't know any up personality disorders
and I myself my my my doctorate program but I was in I I I dropped out of it
because it didn't have anything about person I didn't have enough uh
personality disorder so that's what I wanted to focus on so you know it isn't
credentials necessarily that you know so it really is it really is hard to know
how to do it but here's the thing it's okay to try people out it's okay
they you know subscribe to every channel watch every channel and figure out which
ones you like best but don't get so invested that you can't
you can't back up and change your mind because even this Davis clay I well I
don't think he'll mind my saying so that he in retrospect can say that he had
concerns from he had he said he wasn't on one of ones he wasn't that great that
he said things that were you know bothered him but he was still you know
it's like when I was saying before you gotta try out lots of people but then
you gotta fire them quickly so our problem with like the abusers we were
with in our past wasn't that we got involved with them lots of people got
involved with them lot of people knew them but other people didn't stick
around for the abuse okay and so I was wrong too
you know I was wrong too but the difference is is that I knew within a
few minutes that I wasn't gonna get involved any further with this with
these people you know I and and actually I will have to say too I watched them
all equally kind of across the board you know kind of just like I like to stay
abreast of what everyone's talking about what everyone's doing and so it wasn't
like I was a loyal subscriber I've just only Kim's challenge like that you know
I basically I think I support most of the channels I think I subscribe to most
all of them you know once the ones that if I've even watched one video that I
really believe what they had to say and I supported their message I subscribe to
their channel and and I watch you know I watched every kind of equally if they
whoever has the topic this title is interesting to me here
something I'll watch it so it isn't like I was a loyal you know and I and I
hadn't done any I hadn't ever done anything was had to
watch videos it's all I ever done with any of these channels it only doesn't he
hadn't done you know gone to any 101 there any any sort of thing like that so
but I gotcha now here he says he - this is an outspoken woman really outspoken
she was really out smoking about a lot of things and so the fact that she's
trying to you know play coy now and not me not be out smoking and act like she
doesn't to poke the bear now it is a little bit of a sham because she is
right in your face or all kinds of crazy stuff and the fact that she's not coming
out and and saying something about this is a total sham especially because she
was firing off emails left to write about what you know about AI everything
that was wrong about this guy after this happened you know and with her it was
clearly you know people are you know wonderful or awful you know it's like
you know it didn't see what there's any middle road when it came to how either
of them felt about people and and they were both having all kinds of conflicts
with all kinds of other channels and all kinds of problems with other people and
that was a red flag for me for me as well and that which is why I'm actually
counting on myself you know just becoming one of the many people that
they have promised was this anyone that speaks out against them is now you know
becomes like focus of a smear campaign or something and it's all kinds of their
attention and this they sends a lots a lot of time I'm doing stuff like that
which I did not know until they they basically told me all about it at this
and I was really stunned and and and the channels that you know they'll focus on
earth you know small town you know inconsequential no reason to be giving
all kinds of energy and yet they do so I expect it X like that I am probably just
setting myself up for tons of that happen to me too but you know hope you
know I don't care bring it on bring it on I you know I I you know what I had to
lose was I you know was I you know I'm not gonna be intimidated into being
silent and letting an abuser out there and you know keeps a nut on my watch
yeah exactly on her watch no not on my watch not on my watch you know she
brought she set up a situation to happen let it happen and it is continuing to
let it happen and I I just can't I can't agree with that I can't let that I just
can't so so that's that and you know hopefully you're gonna see me on on a
bigger Channel telling this story and um and when that happens or maybe um maybe
I'll make a follow-up video and actually tell you exactly what happened but I'm
actually saving that right now just to try and try and be able to tell them to
a really bigger audience because the poor woman that that had happened to its
fame of her to hear it and she's wanted you know so I really love would like to
tell it one time and so I'd like to do that our bigger channel but if you know
if no one's will bring me on then I'll tell it on this channel at least 7,000
of you will know what happened and you can spread the word but anyway that's
not to stir you guys I'm sorry to have have that bad news but um if you feel
cheated and you feel tricked or you feel you know I'm sorry
you should feel cheated in trick but don't feel stupid don't feel stupid
don't feel like oh my god my judgment so bad
everybody says everybody says healthy how would you know you don't know to
expect something like this you don't know nobody could have known so don't
don't don't get
don't get don't get down on yourself I don't get down on me because you you
want to believe that it was true that you know that it's not true that you
couldn't have been wrong about them it's you know
of course who would ever expect it you know who would ever expect that that
kind of thing would happen that some of you putting themselves out there that
would then turn right around and do do this kind of thing and and so don't get
don't get down on yourself don't get down on me because you you want to
believe that it was true that you know that it's not true that you couldn't
have been wrong about them it's you know of course who would ever expect it you
know who would ever expect that that kind of thing would happen that some of
you putting themselves out there that would then turn a ride around and do do
this kind of thing and and so it's you know kind of unbelievable
so anyway I'm sorry to have to be passing along bad news but I you know I
had to head to a the truth about me and I also hope that this doesn't mean the
end of meetup so this is I mean I hope this doesn't mean that you know people
won't really try and get together and do things do things in the future because I
the premise of the idea that really was good the idea that really was good
because I do think that we need to come out of isolation we do need to make
friends and all that stuff but when you do that first of all first of all first
of all I think that there's something a little bit inherently dangerous about
promoting people and last year for any reason other than you really believe
what they're doing that's the only reason to promote people so that was
inherently a flaw already so there's all this promotion going on and then so and
and also kit you know she admitted later that she she knew things about him she
knew things about him and either she didn't care and so she was willing to go
ahead and subject people to him anyway or she minimized minimize the threat
that it was or something for some reason or another she knew some things about
him and still brought her more important maybe she shouldn't know these behaviors
were problematic in which case it just goes to show that is it that isn't a
person that's in any position to be counseling people because these
behaviors definitely were problematic and they were red flags and I would have
seen it a million miles away and I think he would have to and so you know at
first try to play the hole you know that she got played thing by him but she's
talked enough to tell you she told enough talked enough she and she can't
stop herself from talking she talked enough to let it out of the bag that she
needed plenty to have known he was a problem and and and also when they left
my house she left him she left she left she went home and left the two of them
alone and and that I already saw was a problem as well I I said I thought that
this woman was in harm's way even at my house and I but I didn't think she would
they all up together and so I didn't think that I didn't think they
you know that they can't protect her you know I didn't think that anyway anyway
it was just um I'm just all-around really bad situation that God could have
been prevented what shit could have easily been
prevented and then even even okay so there was so many steps along the way it
could have easily been prevented but say it wasn't prevented saying it still
happened then it could it could easily have been at least
modify our rectified or stopped and it's just been allowed to just continue here
we are like work a week or a week and a half or so after it's happened and
nothing's been said and you know I think that in her in her estimation just the
fact that she stopped singing his praises you know making this big like
promotion of him was going to be enough well people aren't gonna put that
together they're gonna put something together she did come right out and say
what he did you know carotids say I made a mistake I can't no
longer promote this channel and here's why and the fact that she's not willing
to do that and in fact her her position was I'm doing what's right for me so
apparently what's right for her is too
go along with you know letting people you know setting people up to be abused
and that's you know not right for me and it's not right and I would be enabling
that if I said nothing so I'm saying something and so I'm really sorry about
I'm sorry about it because together collectively they have almost 40,000
people that are listening to their channels and you know that's a lot of
people and
but those of us would have met them
no something a little bit more and it's not good thanks a lot for listening and
I again I'm sorry I'm sorry to be delivering this bad news I really wish
that I wasn't I really do I it would have been much more appropriate well it
would have been much better if it didn't happen at all would be great if I could
be saying what a great time we had that would be great but given that it would
be much better if if Kim was the one saying it and I was just standing behind
her that would have been that that really would have been us so much better
but unfortunately that isn't how it is so I'm a standing out here say in this
story myself because I am the only one that was there with channel who was not
one of the one of the people participating in the abuse so that's
what I'm presented with so that's what I have to work with and that's what I'm
doing that's where I am all right you guys thanks so much you listening I'll
talk with you later bye bye
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