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Just for fun we're gonna take this Fire Emblem Echoes "Hype Train" quiz.
So let's see if we can answer all of these questions.
"What is so special about the Echoes release date?"
Um this one I think it's a Fire Emblem Anniversary.
Yes indeed!
"Echoes is a remake - How many remake titles can the West enjoy including Shadows of Valentia?"
Okay this one is also easy because we did not receive New Mystery of the Emblem,
the only other remake that we got in the West was Shadow Dragon, which makes the number 2.
"Which gameplay feature from Gaiden made a comeback in Fates?"
This one is actually unbreakable weapons because that was something that we had seen since Gaiden,
and we actually got that in Fates.
"Crashing Game Spell."
I'm assuming this means a spell in Gaiden that actually resulted in crashing the game,
and judging by how powerful Ragnarok is, I'm gonna say Ragnarok.
"Which FE title shares a lot of Gaiden's design and features?"
Oh this is easy. This is probably my favorite Fire Emblem ever, Fire Emblem 8 (The Sacred Stones).
It's pretty much a spiritual successor to Gaiden.
"Highest starting level a villager in Gaiden has?"
Oh this one's easy, this is my boy Atlas, and you recruit him at level 10.
"What is Gaiden famous for?"
You know, judging by how joke-worthy a lot of these are, I think it's gonna be top tier map design
because most people complain about the maps in Gaiden.
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(Fire Emblem Echoes Theme plays)
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What's up guys, Stevie here with Lucky Crit.
Today I wanted to talk about a particular choice that the player must make during their
journey through Valentia.
This choice involves choosing between two characters to recruit into your army,
much like Arran and Samson in the original Fire Emblem, and its remake, Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon.
Things have changed a bit since Fire Emblem Gaiden, and there isn't necessarily a clear
cut better unit to pick,
but hopefully in this episode, the analysis of these characters will help you to make your decision.
This choice between the two characters takes place a little bit later on in the game,
and while this video isn't going to spoil any plot details per se,
obviously you will be learning about these two characters and what they'll have to offer,
so if you don't want to know which characters you have to choose between or who they are,
then I recommend you save this video until you get to that part of the game
(once the game is out, of course).
For those of you that don't mind seeing these two characters and discussing their base stats,
growth rates, and overall viability, let's get started.
In Fire Emblem Gaiden, on Celica's route in Chapter 3, the player was presented with a choice.
Either fight the Myrmidon Dean's army and end up recruiting the Mage Sonia later, or
fight Sonia's army and ultimately recruit Dean later.
Back in Gaiden, the choice was a little bit more straightforward.
While Dean started off with slightly higher stats,
his poor growth rates resulted in a worse long-term choice for the player.
Dean's growth rate total amounted to 120% while Sonia's was 180%,
and her growths were much more evenly distributed.
To further put it into perspective for you,
only Mycen and Nomah had worse growths than Dean.
The other problem with Dean was that by the time of his recruitment,
you'd've likely already leveled up another Mercenary character and used them in your army.
Any of the other Mercenary units would likely outclass Dean in the long run, and it was
incredibly likely you'd've upgraded a Mercenary unit to at least the Myrmidon class
already at that point in time.
Sonya on the other hand, had the potential of being the best mage unit
that Celica could get on her journey.
It still wasn't completely cut and dry though, as Dean's Myrmidon class was a strong class
and he had some good base stats, so he still had the potential to be decent overall.
Dread Fighters are very good units,
so having another potential Dread Fighter wasn't in any way a negative.
Dean also came with a Brave Sword, and even though in Gaiden they acted more like Killing Edges,
it was a better item than the Steel Shield that Sonia came with.
The 30% Critical rate could turn just about any of your sword users into a killing machine.
Meanwhile..
Sonya in Gaiden was arguably the best Mage unit that could be recruited on Celica's route,
and potentially the game as well.
She started with very strong stats for a level 5 Mage, and her overall growths were the highest
of any Mage other than Celica.
Her growths were also split evenly amongst all her stats, (save resistance) and this
helped her avoid becoming a bit lopsided like Mae and Boey tended to.
She also had the best Speed of any Mage in the game, starting with 12.
Most of the other Mages would've struggled to reach 12 Speed even if they were fully leveled.
She was also blessed with one of the best spell sets in the game, with Angel for fighting monsters,
Arrow for raw damage, Excalibur with its low weight and 20% Crit chance
that complimented her already high Skill and Crit rate, and Thunder with its range of 3.
Upon promotion to Priestess, she also had the ability to wield Swords, which allowed her
to become a formidable (though slightly frail) physical unit on top of her magic.
But that's the past.
In Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia, things are a bit different now.
Deen is now much better, and Sonya has been debuffed a little, further balancing the choice
the player has to make between the two.
With this new balancing, it's really up to what you want personally for your army.
Deen has gone from Gaiden Deen's 120% growth rate total to Shadows of Valentia Deen's 235% total.
This makes him a great unit overall, and much better long-term than his Gaiden counterpart was.
However, recruiting Deen does still add onto the 3 Mercenaries you already get and the
potentially 4-5 Dread Fighters already accessible on Celica's route.
Like I said though, Dread Fighters aren't bad to have more of.
So it all boils down to personal preference.
Do you want a lot of Mages or a lot of Mercenaries?
Perhaps you dislike all of the Mages or Mercenaries up to this point and want a different one.
Or maybe you just like how Deen looks more than Sonya.
It's up to you and with the changes in Echoes, now more than ever there isn't a wrong answer.
Compared to the other Mercenary units and their growths,
Deen has the highest Strength growth out of the bunch, save for Atlas as a Mercenary.
He's also tied second highest for Skill and Speed, worst Luck, and second highest with Defense.
So overall he's one of the more balanced Mercenaries on Celica's route.
Saber tends to be a bit beefier than the others with higher HP and Defense growths,
Kamui is a bit frailer but with some more Strength than Saber.
Jesse is the oddball with the focus on Luck at the expense of of bulk, but still has more
Skill and Speed than Saber does, and Atlas is all HP and Attack.
Base stats wise, Kamui comes with more Defense, HP, and Attack than Saber,
but is also two levels higher,
though his nice base Defense and HP help to mitigate his lower growths in those stats
in comparison to Saber,
Jesse has rather low bases for being recruited at level 6, only one point of strength higher
than Kamui who is recruited 3 levels earlier,
but a bit higher Speed and better HP.
Atlas's bases match his growths, beastly Attack and bulky HP.
Compared to all of them, Dean's Attack and Defense right out of the gate are a bit low
for being a promoted Myrmidon, but he's got really nice Skill and Speed.
Dean also still comes equipped with his Brave Sword too, this time utilizing the series'
now standard attributes for the Brave weapon type.
The Brave Sword allows its wielder the ability to perform twice as many attacks
as they are normally able to.
So even if you opted to bench Dean or just give his Brave Sword to another sword wielding unit,
it's still a great weapon to have in your arsenal.
Now let's talk about Sonya.
In Shadows of Valentia, Sonya also gets a growth rate boost as well, with her growths
total going from 180% to a respectable 244%.
But the main reason why she isn't the definitive choice this time around, is because she now
loses access to the spells Angel and Arrow, and instead now has access to the spells
Rewarp and Entrap in their place.
Rewarp teleports the user next to any ally, and Entrap brings an enemy next to the user.
So these give her the ability to teleport around and move around enemies,
allowing her much more utility at the cost of some good attack spells.
Rewarp and Entrap are good spells, but just aren't really that useful to her for being
the magic powerhouse she used to be.
If you tend to have the playstyle of trying to kill everything in one round, then perhaps
she's no longer the clear choice for you.
Her other offensive spells should still be good enough though.
She still has Excalibur and Thunder, and Excalibur will still play really well off of her now
even higher Skill.
Another unit with Recover is also always a good thing, and Rewarp and Entrap do have their uses,
so I would consider the main units you plan on using in your playthrough and determine
if Sonya is the right fit or not.
When comparing Sonya to Boey and Mae, it's clear that Boey will likely end up a bit tankier
than she will, with his better HP and Defense growths, but also much slower than her,
and Mae could potentially end up with a bit more Attack with her nice 60% growth rate,
but definitely much less Skill, so she probably won't be critting as much as Sonya,
and with Excalibur, Sonya still has the edge.
Mae would also be likely to end up a bit less tanky than Sonya, with her frailer HP and Defense growths.
Base stats wise, Sonya comes at level 5 with low HP and Defense
when compared to Mae and Boey's level 1 bases,
but some good Attack, very high Skill, good Speed, and better Resistance than the two of them.
Mae starts off with almost no Skill and Defense, and her growths won't be helping her much
in those departments,
but better Attack and definitely a decent starting Speed for a level 1 Mage.
Boey isn't much better in the Skill department with his base Skill of 2,
but his 55% Skill growth will help that.
He's also much slower, but a bit beefier with higher HP and Defense.
Mae and Boey aren't bad units by any means, but Sonya definitely stands out and is a fairly
convincing choice for the most balanced Mage on Celica's route, aside from Celica herself.
And without spoiling anything, I will also add that Sonya has a bit more plot relevance
within the overal story of Echoes.
It's not that much, but in comparison I guess you could consider Dean the guy you pick up
in the desert, and even though he's with you throughout your campaign,
he won't be involved very much in the story outside of being next to your other units
in battle and his supports and base conversations.
The good thing about Echoes though, is that it provides a lot of good replayability
to go through the game again and pick the opposite choice next time.
The villagers' ability to take on different classes also further compliments this,
so you could really have some fun experimenting
and picking the different characters on subsequent playthroughs.
For me personally, my original plan was to pick Deen first, but because of my team composition
and how I plan to reclass the villagers,
I think I'll be picking Sonia the first time around.
In my first playthrough I'd like to make Atlas a Mercenary, which is where he seems to excel
the most, and having Deen as well might be a bit redundant.
On a second playthrough I think I'd like to try Atlas as a Mage, and in that case picking
Sonya would be a bit redundant, so I think I'll pick Sonya first, then Deen next time around.
If you're also wondering what classes you should pick for each villager, be sure to
check out our last episode as well.
And that's gonna wrap up today's episode guys, thank you so much for watching.
If you found this episode helpful, be sure to slash that thumbs up down below,
comment, "Echoes" in the comment section, and also be sure to let me know what your plans are the comments.
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