From the beginning of time people [have] often wondered
if God is a god of love, then why did he allow so much suffering in this world as
Intelligent human being you and I have a right to know the answer to this important subject [it] [Rose] many other questions
that are enviably
Believe it or not in order to shed light on this [question] we need to look Beyond this world
to the war in heaven that took place between good legal
Stay tuned and watch at International speaker [Doug] [batchelor] makes the Bible
Well, we're going on to a very
difficult and challenging
subject tonight dealing with if God exists
[why] [is] there suffering? I might expand the title to say if God is love?
Why is there so much suffering? Why did the innocent suffer if God is all-Powerful? Why?
[doesn't] he destroy the devil?
there's a lot of wise and a
Lot of dear people and brilliant people when they [ask] this question because they don't understand what the bible teaches on this they throw aside
God altogether [they] say how could there be a good God in a world where there's so much bad
How many of you have asked this question before you've thought these things
We're going to again go to our first question for this presentation
[I'm] going to talk a little bit about why is there sin and suffering why is there evil?
Why would a good God make a bad devil?
big questions [number] one
With whom did sin or evil?
originate according to the bible if you look in John Chapter three verse 8 it says the devil sinneth from
the beginning
Sin in the world and suffering in the [world] originated with this arch-villain
That we sometimes call Satan
Or the devil he comes by many names virtually every religion in the world
Has a god of good, and then they've got this sinister evil. God because everyone can see it acting out in life
You see these beautiful things of creation
Butterflies coming out of their cocoon those wonderful things are great beauty and then we see things that are vicious
You see you know an innocent little fawn being torn apart by a lion and you say wow I just [didn't] look right
There's such ferocity and brutality in the world it was at the original plan
You read in Genesis when God made [everything]. It says it was good good, [and] he concludes by saying very good
something happened
Stay with me
again, he's called that old serpent called the devil and Satan you go to revelation [and]
Right there it identifies this and by the way in that same verse it calls him [the] dragon
the Dragon
the serpent
Satan the Devil and
so in the Bible
you'll hear references to the dragon and to the serpent and they are typically symbolic of
The Devil because he sort of got branded with that logo at the beginning in the garden of Eden
Which we'll talk about in a moment here number, two
What was Satan's name before he sinned and where was he living at that time?
well if you read in Isaiah 14, it says how you are Fallen from Heaven O
lucifer son of the morning
Now the name Satan means adversary. He wasn't always an adversary. God did not [make] [a]
Needle Devil because that would make God an accomplice
For evil and sin and the Bible says every good and perfect gift comes from God God doesn't do anything wrong. He's perfect and
there's no evil that proceeds from God if
Evil proceeds from God then why would he punish sinners for being evil?
This is so important that we understand this it'll change your whole worldview
Stay with me. What was the origin of lucifer, and what responsible position did he hold and how much does the Bible describe him?
Well it tells us in ezekiel 28 speaking about the origin of lucifer
You [were] perfect in your ways so did God make a defective devil
You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created. He wasn't born he was created
You and I are all born but there are certain beings that are created Adam was created
God created Eve
Angels are created they don't have children and procreate
lucifer was created long long time ago
And when God made him he was perfect you are perfect in your ways from the day [that] you were created till iniquity
Was found in you it goes on to tell us about his position
You are the anointed cherub who Covers I?
Established you now if you read in the bible. You've probably heard about the ark of the covenant
This sacred object that was in the holy of holies in the temple and above the [ark] there were two angels are called Covering Cherubs
Lewis the highest position it represents the throne of God that ark on Earth and
In Heaven God does not have golden angels on the right and left of his throne
He's got real angels the golden angels on the ark were symbols of the real angels by the throne of God
lucifer held one of those positions highest position of any created being
Was position of one of those angels one led to lucifer's sin his rebellion
It says in Ezekiel
28 as we read on in the same passage your heart was lifted up because of your beauty
You've corrupted your wisdom by reason of your brightness
you know
You've heard it said before that power corrupts and absolute power Corrupts absolutely
Because of his exalted position and incredible powers the bible says angels are more powerful than men you read that in Hebrews
Man was made a little lower than the angels [it] tells us in PsAlms. He is the chief of the angels
Incredibly Powerful being and
You and I in our own strength are no match for the devil, but always remember that you and Jesus are a majority
You and Jesus can bring down any giants you don't need to be afraid [of] the devil [if] you would christ because christ
defeats the devil every time
But here. He was this powerful angel worshipped by the other Angels Brilliant
good-looking and
Because [of] his gifts he began to worship himself instead of God
You might be thinking
When did God make a mistake obviously [the] wiring was wrong at the factory if if this one angel?
Started worshipping him so didn't didn't god do something wrong couldn't God have made him where he never would think those proud
Selfish thoughts
yeah, God could have made him like that, but
Can you love if you're a robot?
Let me ask another question if God makes all of his creatures free to love
if he pre-programs his creatures to love is that love
God doesn't force any of his creatures to love him. He
[made] lucifer and all of his creatures with freedom
Intelligence a free will they could choose to process the information with the minds and the intelligence they have and draw their own conclusions
He can only hope that they'll love him, but he doesn't force us to love him
What happened in Heaven is a consequence of Lucifer's rebellion?
It tells us and there was war in Heaven
Michael and his angels fought against the dragon and the dragon fought in his angels. Here's something that we know right away
is that
Lucifer Satan is now not alone in his rebellion you notice there. It says the dragon and his what his angels
that means that when lucifer first began to nurture these rebellious thoughts because he was so in [love] with himself [and] his looks and
His intelligence he thought I should be God. I will be like the most high
He is the ultimate
Megalomaniac
narcissistic and
That's acted out in the lives of some who follow him
He began to circulate among the other angels and with his incredible intelligence in his political skill
He began to say you know why does God have rules why does God have a law we should have more freedom
We don't you should have no restrictions, and he began to question the [government] and the leadership of God on every point
but he would do it subtly by innuendo [we've] seen people do that before though try to besmirch your character by planting questions and
The Devil is a master at then he went among the [angels] and he began to insinuate
among the angels that [God] is not good that God is not fair that if he was God things would be much better and
He managed somehow according to the Bible
it says one-third of the angels sided with lucifer in his rebellion can you imagine that and
So ultimately it broke out in some cosmic
conflict there in heaven between God and his angels and the devil and his angels and of course it uses a
Symbolic verticals in the Dragon, but we all know who that is
Until finally they are evicted. I don't know what weapons they use, but there was some kind of titanic colossal combat
between these spiritual forces and
That war is still going on today?
Except this planet is now the battleground. How did it all get transferred down [here]? We'll get to that now
when God created Adam and Eve
What one thing did he forbid them to do?
but of the knowledge of the good
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat for in the day that you eat of it it
Says you Shall die
He told them don't go by that tree. Well, what happened?
It tells us in the bible that
Eve was evidently wandering around in the Garden
Examining the fruit or doing some harvesting and she saw that tree and maybe it was a beautiful tree probably was [seen] usually is
Probably had neon lights or something. I don't know and
as she drew near the tree all of [a] sudden the devil had evidently
you know
God can possess people
[the] devil can possess people
God has spoken through donkeys
The devil can speak through animals too and the devil took this serpent which was one of the most
hypnotic of all the creatures [in] the Garden
evidently it could fly before
And that's where you get all these legends of the winged serpents
and that serpent was up there in the tree and
Perhaps he was eating the fruit
As if to say [look] nothing's wrong with me a matter of fact before I eat this fruit I couldn't even talk
Now look what it's done for me, hey, beautiful [Camille] for a minute
I want to talk to you and so she ate this forbidden fruit and
then brought it to her husband and that's when
Sin came into the world now. I've run ahead of my questions here. What medium did Satan used to deceive eve
And what lies did he tell her?
Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which [the] Lord God had made
Genesis 3 verse 1 and then the serpent said to the woman
He won't really die now notice this God told Adam, and he very clearly if you eat the forbidden fruit
You will die
The Devil is completely contradicting the word of God
By the way the first question in the bible is the devil questioning the word of God
You know why we've got so many problems in the world today is
Because the devil is still getting people to question the word of God
it all came from doubting God's word and
then after that
Man lost dominion of the planet keep in mind what God first made out of [an] [e]?
God made man in his own [image] in the same way that God is supreme and a ruler and God can create
God made man. So he has the ability to procreate and man was to be the ruler of this world
the Minion of the planet was given to Adam
the highest of all God's creatures a crowning act of creation was man and woman and
When Adam and Eve chose to listen to the word of the enemy instead of the word of God?
They basically handed the keys of this planet to Satan
We lost control even jesus says the devil is the prince of this world
So you are living in a planet [that] is a war zone
[you] [can] see it around you all the time and
Instead of saying why do so many [bad] [things] happen we ought to be thanking the Lord that so many good [things] happen
God intervenes a great deal to protect there are limits based on his own character and justice on what he can do in this world
Except as we ask him through prayer to intervene in our lives. There's a cosmic conflict transpiring down here
It goes on to say in
Revelation 12:17 and the Dragon was wroth with a woman and goes to destroy the remnant of her seed
That keep the commandments [of] God and have the testimony of Jesus
The Dragon who's the dragon?
We're learning what these symbols [mean] was roth angry with the woman who's the woman?
That'd be God's church
and he goes to make war with the remnant that means the remainder of her [sea] or her descendants are children and
So there's [this] war going on
Now here's the good news
It's like kind of a political campaign the devil has cast his vote against you
He wants you to be destroyed the devil hates you and you might be wondering. Why does the devil hate me so much?
Because he hates god and he wants to hurt. God by hurting you because the devil knows that God loves you I?
Want to ask you parents?
What would hurt you more if someone tortured you or made you watch as they tortured your child? What would hurt more?
We have five children had six we lost the son. I know what it looks like to see a child in the hospital suffering and
Is oh if you could trade places and say lord let it be me. I'd rather suffer than watch them suffer
God made this beautiful world that devil tries to corrupt it cause it all hurts. God
And while we're down here shaking our fists at God saying if you're so good
Why are you allowing all this and God [has] [named] this hurts me much more than it hurts you
That's why Jesus [came] to show us. What God is like?
Jesus came to show us what his father is like. He said if you've seen me. You've seen the father and
Jesus came to be our substitute our example and our substitute to take our place
why was eating a piece of fruit such a deadly offence and why were Adam and eve removed from the
He that commits sin is of the devil John 3 verse 8
when a person sins they are listening to the enemy and basically they were casting their vote on the side of the devil and
Again Romans chapter 6 verse 16 don't you know that who you present yourselves slaves to obey
You are the one slaves who you obey whoever you obey the two sermons [you] are
whether sin leading to death or of
obedience leading to righteousness
So whose servant do you want to be by the way whether you want to or not whether you believe it or not?
You are all
Somebody's servant, we are all either serving. God of the enemy. Well. I started telling you a minute ago. It's like a political campaign
The [Devil's] cast his vote against you
God has cast his vote for you. You have the tie-breaking vote
You do you have a free choice
who you want to serve how powerful and effective are Satan's temptations and
strategies
But I don't want to give many glory, but the bible tells us that we should be aware of our enemy
Matthew 24:24 there will be false Christ's and false prophets that will rise and show great signs and wonders
to deceive if it were possible even the very elect
it says the devil who deceive it the whole world in the last days his deceptions are going to be so
Compelling that the vast majority of the world is going to follow him
That's why I'm glad that you're here [and] listening the bible says broad is the way that leads to destruction most people follow the devil
[ditto] and he's not running around with a red leotards and a goatee [and] horns. I mean who would follow him
The Devil is a smooth operator. He makes sin as attractive as he can he's a master of marketing
His philosophy there are three principal areas where the devil tempts us?
It says in first John chapter 2 verse 15 the 17 love not the world neither the things that are in the world
For [if] any man loves the world the love of the father is not in them
For all that's in the world the lust of the flesh
the lust of the eyes and the pride of life
Of the world and the world's going to pass away in the lust thereof
But he that does the will of God will abide forever in the temptation of Jesus
He was tempted those three areas [of] sin lust of the flesh the lust of the eyes and the pride of life
Remember the devil said christ if you're the son of God take these stones and turn them into bread
tempting his physical temptations and
Jesus answered with the Bible. He said it is written man will not live by bread alone
But by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God
and then the devil took him up to the
pinnacle of the Temple and he said
if you're the son of God cast yourself down
And then the devil quotes the [bible] for it is written. He'll give his angels charge over thee and
They'll bear you up in your hands lest you dash your foot against the stone
Does the Devil know the Bible?
So does he misquote it?
should it surprise you that there are a lot of different religions out there that claim to believe the Bible, but they misquote it and
He did it even to Jesus
He still does it [today] third temptation
It took him up to a very high mountain and showed him all the [kingdoms] of the world and their glory
And he said all these things I'll give you if you'll bow down and worship me
What does the devil want he wants to be God?
he wanted to subjugate christ he wants that position very clear what he wants and
Jesus had a way with you Satan for it is written
You shall worship the lord your God and [him] [only]?
Shall you serve notice all three times that jesus fought temptation. He used weapons that are available to you and me
He's the bible
So what is our best defense?
remember we found that this represents the sword of the spirit is the [word] of God as
You hide his word in your heart, it gives you strength against temptation
It's why it's so important for us to study and read the Bible
Tells us to put on the whole armour of God that we might be able to stand against the wiles of the devil
God has provided a way [for] you to be victorious over every temptation
You know when I came to the Lord
The first time I was drinking and smoking and using drugs and had all kinds of addictions and problems and by the grace of God
He saved me from
the alcohol the cigarettes the drugs the
immorality bad language, I had a bad [mouth]
That's me is one of the biggest miracles of all to give me a new vocabulary
You haven't heard me slip once have you?
Just as you pre-programming he'll do that for you. He makes you a new creature in our own power. We can't defeat the devil
But through christ all things are possible
What is it that forever settles the horrible problem of sin and will sin ever rise up again?
You can read in the book name
Chapter 1 verse 9
Affliction or sin will not rise up again in the second time
You might be thinking once the devil is gone. How do we know this will never happen again?
The whole universe has observed this great conflict between good and evil here on this planet
nobody [is] ever going to forget and
Forever in the hands of Jesus when he rose from the dead. [he] still had the scars as
A reminder what the terrible punishment of sin is the terrible consequences of sin?
He suffered for that
Nobody's going to want to experiment with selfishness ever again
Who makes the final complete eradication of sin from the Universe a certainty?
first John 3 verse 8 for
[this] purpose the son of God was manifested that he might destroy
The works of the Devil who's the son of God?
Jesus
He came to destroy the works of the devil
[and] that's why you've got to let him destroy those things in you he will he'll make you a new creature and
Again Hebrews 2 verse 14 [for] [as] much then as the children [are] partakers of Flesh and blood he christ
also himself likewise took the part of the same
that through death
Jesus might destroy him that has the power of death [that] is the devil. You don't [have] to be afraid of death
[whew] christ because he died and rose again you can have a new body you can rise again
You can live forever because what jesus did he destroyed the power of the devil
You know I want to race ahead because I see him out of time
on a closer little story here [and]
One day of a mother there lived out in the the back part of Southern, Florida with her son
They had a big big pond small lake on their property one day their son said mama it's a hot day
I want to go jump in the pond a little dock a little beach there on there their [lake] by the pond and
He was [she] [fat], okay real quick, [and] then come in for lunch
True story he went running out. He didn't even wait till he get to her sir
He's ripping off his clothes down his bathing suit got to the edge of the water
and he jumped in mom is watching dutifully from the kitchen window where she can see the pond where he's swimming there and
evidently a very large alligator had migrated to that [conveyed] and it never been there before and
She saw as her son was swimming out towards the middle
This big [Gator] slip into the water on the other side and begin swimming towards her son
She dropped her dishes and ran out the [door] and [she] [began] to scream
Alligator alligator Swim [for] [the] shore. There's an alligator
Well he knew what that meant
and
He turned around he's looking all [around] and he began to swim up all his might and the Gator was closing on him pretty quick
She's running down towards the shore [just] as he got up towards the shore the gator chomped down on his legs
at the same time the mother [lunged] she grabbed his wrists and
then there was a tug-of-War [and]
at first the Gators pulling mom off in the water, but you know mothers are pretty tenacious and
She's pulling back and her son is slippery and slipped out of her hand
She grabbed him again, and he's yelling don't let go don't let go and the gators trying to pull him back and do this role
She pulled him back up on shore
while all this screaming and commotion the mother and the son a
Farmer driving by right near the house heard that he paused he looked he had a life of his truck
[grabbed] the Rifle ran down there shot the alligator while the boy was badly scarred on his legs, and he's taken to the hospital and
At first I thought [he] was going to lose his legs
But the doctors did a remarkable job and they patched him up so that he kept his legs?
after he recovered a little bit a reporter came to the hospital and
asked if he could interview the boy and find out what his ordeal was liking and get the story and
He said you mind if I see your legs
He said no, and he pulled back the sheets
and he showed him the legs and the the bandages were off and he could see the stitches and the scars and and
The boy then held up his arms
and he said you know and I got scars on my arms too cuz mom wouldn't let go of me and
He was so proud [of] the scars on his arms
Liyan if somebody's got scars in their hands because he didn't want to let go of you. That's Jesus
But you've got to make a decision to hang on to him. He says I'll not let go of you
But you've got to come to me he will not force himself on [you]
he will not force his love [on] you he pleads with you to come just as you are and
He says he'll give you a new life lydia victory. He'll give you a purpose. He says it's an Abundant life
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