>> I'm Len Fedoruk and here's our Vehicle Buying Law
Enforcement Vehicles.
Dan Mohn and Mike Chipman are on point for the law enforcement.
They're happy to answer those questions
with your FSR as well as with you.
We wanted to streamline the procurement lead time.
Takes too long to get these vehicles purchased and get them
into your hands through a lease agreement.
We want to enhance the transferability
and the utility of these vehicles.
If you had a vehicle typically that you're using
in San Antonio, Texas, and you transferred to Kansas City,
the vehicle looked different.
And, again, I mentioned about having the vehicles
that could be transferred
so this way it would look the same no matter where you went.
So if you are an FDF customer, you had a specific footprint
for your vehicle, whether you used in New Mexico,
or whether you used it in New York.
When the officer gets in the vehicle,
everything looks the same.
And of course the big thing is we wanted to drive savings.
If we can get the better prices on the vehicles, you're going
to get a better lease rate
and a better maintenance rate on the vehicle.
Again, the players in this interagency team we talked
about of course with DOD, the Federal Protective Service,
Unites States Park Police, our friends at National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration, or NOAA.
We will with our supply base, which is primarily GM, Ford,
and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles.
And of course we looked at our supply base
and schedule 23V and schedule 84.
These were the suppliers
that basically provided the law enforcement equipment I
mentioned such as light bars, takedown lights,
weapons mounts, and safes.
They were all part of this process.
What we did was, the goal one was
to develop some shared standards very quickly.
And what we did is we partnered
across the Federal law enforcement community.
All those that I mentioned that were part of task team,
as well as the Department of Defense,
and some other agencies, what do you need?
What would you like?
What would you have to have?
Was basically the three formulas.
We then conducted extensive market research and analysis
between GSA fleet, between purchasing,
to see what was out there.
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>> Great. Next what we did is we facilitated collaboration
on our stakeholders.
Again, that was we'll build them but you got to buy them.
We developed detailed purchase descriptions
where before using various suppliers
such as Unicorp vehicles were just done
like on a job shop basis.
No two vehicles really looked alike.
Now with standard purchase descriptions,
the build would be the same every time.
And what this was was really transformational
into standardized solutions.
They're now in the Federal vehicle standards
and they're easily recognizable and available for review.
We balanced competing interests to build common solutions.
What we tried to do was avoid the "me, too" syndrome.
One agency would get a law enforcement vehicle and say,
"Well, gee, we'd like that, too, but we would like this."
We went back to what do you need for the mission?
What's the absolute requirement?
And then what would be any optional equipment
for special mission purposes?
And kind of build a solution around that.
That helped us aggregate demand.
I mentioned before, we were buying these law enforcement
vehicles five here, six here, eight here,
for different agencies.
By aggregating the demand, we figured out we had
over 5,000 vehicles available annually
and that gives us leverage in purchasing to go
out to the suppliers and negotiate better prices
and better delivery schedules for our vehicles.
Second goal was looking at the streamlined acquisition.
Dan is sitting here to my right and that was, again,
we wanted a national versus a local procurement strategy.
Let's buy out of one place, let's buy all
of our requirements, and distribute it nationally.
And that proved to be successful.
Along with that we wanted to exit the local upfit markets.
Far more expensive, far less experienced,
also there was problems with consistency,
quality, and warranty.
You may not be familiar with the AREQ process,
but this is a purchasing procurement process
by which special items are purchased that are off contract
which means every time we bought a police vehicle
with the different equipment we had
to do a completely separate procurement
as if it was the first time.
By standardizing the equipment and offering optional pieces
of equipment, it eliminated this process
which means the procurement process became less labor
intensive and equipment packages are now standard
across all vehicles as dictated by the agency request.
The third goal was enhance
that transferability and that usability.
These standard packages enabled easier vehicle assignments.
Again, if you're running the vehicle in New York
and you need it in Detroit, the vehicle looks the same.
It has the same equipment for NOAA, the same equipment
for FTS, the same equipment for ICE and DHS.
So it allows you flexibility to move your vehicle
around the country in order to get better utilization.
Allows you to leverage your assets.
It improves the equipment installation quality which means
when that vehicle comes off the assembly line
from the Ford Motor Company, or the Dodge division
of Fiat Chrysler, it's built the same way every time it comes
down the production line which just is going
to drive inherent quality in the vehicle.
It eases the operational issues
and the training required for agencies.
And that, as an example,
the park police sport utility vehicle.
All the equipment on every vehicle is in the same location.
So if the officer goes from vehicle seventeen to vehicle 21,
the weapons, the weapons locker, the radio, the siren switches,
the lights, the air conditioning,
everything is situated the same in every vehicle
so they all look the same.
Supporting that means less human factors for training.
The officer doesn't need to know how or where everything is
in the vehicle because it's there the same place every time
which gives you standard vehicle location,
which also gives better human factors, more satisfaction,
and greater officer safety in the vehicle itself.
Our next one was to drive savings.
This is really near and dear to my heart as a purchasing guy.
Again, we're aggregating purchases, gives us lower cost,
and we're seeing significant savings in the acquisition
of the vehicle which means you're seeing better rates.
You'd realize the 20% cost reduction
for basic upfit package, pretty significant.
There's a uniform product warranty,
reducing maintenance cost which means as in the first time
that if you have a problem
with your Ford Taurus law enforcement vehicle,
you can role it into a Ford dealer and they'll service
and they'll support that repair.
We've been able to achieve a 50% reduction
in the acquisition timeline which means is that when Dan
and Dan here are placing customer requests through CAM,
they know certainty how long it's going to take to upfit
that vehicle and when the estimated delivery is going
to be.
We're now extending police leasing as part
of the GSA value equation.
In the past, those of you
that acquired law enforcement vehicles for leasing,
if you remember, you got a lease rate for the vehicle
but you were charged back at AIE for the equipment package.
No more. It's rolled into your monthly lease rate.
That's going to give you capital and budgetary certainty
over the life of the lease which means
that the lease rate you pay
on the first day will be the lease rate you pay on the last.
No more do you have to front your cash in order
to get the law enforcement equipment.
And our goal, of course, is we hope to grow this market share.
Those of you that are still maintaining your law enforcement
fleet on your own, doing your own maintenance and repair,
you might want to give some serious decisions
and discussions of talking with John DiPasquale
about consolidating your law enforcement fleet with GSA.
Let's talk about future applicability.
This formula works because we now have 33 law enforcement
packages that are available on our vehicles.
It meets about 90% of the demand which meets
with existing options and packages that are available.
We're beginning to launch our survey which begins in February
in San Antonio, Texas, where we'll be meeting
with the law enforcement community on what vehicle
and equipment requirements they'll have
for fiscal years 19 and 20.
So we're already deep into the process even though we just
awarded contracts in October.
And we're doing the same concept to our wheelchair van programs,
our heavy duty trucks.
And I'm pleased to announce that by 2020 you'll be able
to get standard trailers available on auto choice
or the leasing program in a more efficient means
and a timely means of getting those.
So these are rolling out into other vehicle programs
for standard packages.
And again, as you always heard the folks here in fleet,
especially Bill Toth, our director, it's right vehicles,
right price, great service.
And, again, the big thing here was
to give you guys a turnkey solution
which means you got a national law enforcement strategy
and upfit policy.
Got the right equipment for the right vehicle
for your law enforcement mission.
We drove a minimum 20% cost savings.
We standardized the warranty and reduced maintenance cost.
You have a three-year, 36,000 bumper-to-bumper warranty
from the siren to the engine on these products.
We eliminated lengthy,
time consuming optional equipment procurement
on these vehicles.
We're enhancing your fleet homogeneity
which means reduced training requirements.
Your Dodge Chargers will all look the same if you're FPS,
so will your Ford Taurus's.
So everything looks the same vehicle to vehicle.
The big one here is we're reduced downtimes
between vehicle exchanges.
I think most of you know that when you turn
in your law enforcement vehicle, had to be decommissioned.
And then you took that beat up, five-year-old,
bug infested light bar and put it
on your brand new GSA leased vehicle.
No more. When you get the vehicle,
it's ready with the exception of [inaudible] [SLL2]your radio
and communications equipment.
We hand over the keys, you sign, you drive.
So now you'll be able to leverage your vehicles more.
We've put in some safeguards
to prevent improper modification of upfits.
We still request your cooperation
and your formalized notification if you need
to add some additional equipment.
We're going to talk about that.
You now have standard lease rates
and standard equipment codes for all of your fleet.
And, again, we expect to grow this market share significantly
within GSA.
Our next slide here shows our main vehicle programs
that we're offering.
Again, the two upper ones is the Ford Taurus Interceptor,
also available.
This is a pursuit vehicle and non-pursuit.
The Dodge Charger on the right,
available in pursuit and non-pursuit.
The F-150 and the RAM 1500 K9 vehicle,
available in pursuit and non-pursuit.
And the Chevrolet Tahoe full size SUV, available in pursuit
and non-pursuit rated for missions.
This to bring you update on a few things and this dates back
to October first, the beginning of the fiscal year.
All these vehicles have been awarded the base vehicles.
So we are in the thick of right now accepting purchase orders
for buying customers and, of course,
acquisitions is knee deep in CAM.
You saw the first December eleventh date coming forward
so we're rolling.
We announced at last year's Fed Fleet that we were coming
with a prisoner transport van and a full size van,
a transit, and a RAM ProMaster.
They're delayed until late April,
mainly because they're currently going
through NHTSA crash approval.
Again, even prisoners do have rights being transferred
and being transported.
So we have to make sure that they be transported safely
and they meet all federal crash standards.
All of the selections have been made for low bid
and the best mission fit.
So, again, the CAM information is out there.
We're ready to go.
I want to bring this next point to your attention.
The agency guidance is firm.
There's no exceptions on these packages.
So if you are with the Federal Protective Services,
the vehicles have been identified.
The packages have been selected.
The optional equipment has been included.
And your senior leadership has signed off on those vehicles.
So when your fleet service rep gets the notification and he
or she is looking at replacing your seventeen pursuit sedans,
really your only selection is, "Am I getting the Ford
or am I getting the Dodge Charger?"
because the agency guidance has been set at the national level.
So I like to use the analogy we're like Denny's.
You're getting hash browns with breakfast.
If you want tater tots, you're going to love those hash browns.
So, again, the agency guidance has set the equipment package
you're to receive and the types of vehicle.
Your FSR will basically place that replacement,
handle the normal process of getting your plates
and getting your vehicle transferred,
and as well as any other questions that you would have.
These vehicles do not include communications equipment.
We are unsuccessful in rationalizing installing radios
in the vehicles because the radio community amongst the
federal police and military police is too diverse.
So what we have done is all vehicles have a plug
and play system.
They come with the necessary antennas, the power
and signal distribution cabling, and it's a plug and play.
So whether it's a Motorola radio or another brand,
it's ready to go and be installed
by your radio team to do so.
We're going to talk about the 17H.
This is the new Ford Fusion hybrid pursuit rated sedan.
As well as the 55 Lima which is the F-150
and RAM 1500 pursuit rated pickup trucks.
They are not available until late April of this year.
They're currently going through their pursuit rating testing
with the Michigan State Police, the California Highway Patrol,
and the New York State Police for certification.
They are available in non-pursuit
with the exception of the 17 hybrid.
You have to wait for that one.
Ford does not have a special services package
yet for Fusion but it is coming.
The key thing we want to stress with you folks is
that the ordering is going to be critical here with your FSR.
Takes about 64 days to upfit a vehicle
with law enforcement equipment, do the testing,
and get it ready to go.
Takes 90 days to build the base vehicle from the factory.
So when Ford builds that Taurus or that Interceptor in Chicago,
it takes them 90 days.
It goes to the upfitter.
It's 154 days production for delivery.
And that is as of any orders received prior
to March thirty-first, 2018.
So the sooner we get your orders settles with your FSR,
the better, the sooner you're going to get them.
I will caution you, if you're orders get placed
after March thirty-first, beginning April first,
that may increase to 217 or 270 days
because the production calendar in North America
for our suppliers' changes radically.
So sooner is going to be better.
So those of you that are currently looking
at your CAM requirements for your vehicles,
make those selections, get them forward.
That deadline is a hard date.
If you're ready to submit tomorrow, submit them tomorrow.
But right now 154 days from receipt of order,
you'll be sitting in your new police vehicle.
These are the packages.
This is kind of an eye chart.
It shows the standard item number.
So when an item 17 which is a sedan,
you can get the following LU packages that are available.
We are having these packages made available on our website,
as well as your FSR will have information what's
in these packages.
So if you want to know what's in an LU1 basic upfit
for law enforcement vehicle, you'll be able
to identify the equipment.
All the way down to the LU51 which is one
of our most complex military working dog and K9.
Thirty-three packages are available.
And, again, they have been selected already
by your senior leadership.
It's a matter of your FSR placing the order
on your behalf.
Let's take a look at some additional vehicles and some
of the items that are in these.
These are the main bread and butter vehicles.
The 10 Bravo which is the non-pursuit sedan
which is available in a Ford Taurus, and a Dodge Charger,
the 17 which is available in a pursuit rated Charger
and Taurus, and the 17H which is the new Ford Fusion hybrid
pursuit rated vehicle.
Some characteristics you need to know
as a leasing customer in the GSA.
What are these vehicles good for and what are they not good for.
They're not good for fuel economy.
These vehicles are specifically designed
for law enforcement missions.
You are getting a cop car with a cop engine,
cop transmission, cop brakes.
Extremely robust.
GM has elected to exit this market.
They do not have a full size sedan available
so we cannot make it available.
The Impala is gone.
The engines and drive trains
in these vehicles have special calibrations designed
to basically handle long idling periods.
So this engines are designed for that.
Please follow the recommended maintenance schedule
on that vehicle because as you may not be aware of,
one hour of idling is equivalent to 33 miles of driving.
These vehicles have enhanced performing characteristics
on these vehicles because of law enforcement.
Very tight steering, very tight shift points
in the transmission.
So these are cop car to the bone.
Pursuit rated vehicles are only involved in SIN 17 only.
If you are going to be chasing down bad guys and bad girls,
you need to have a pursuit rated vehicle.
Don't chase them down in a 10 Bravo
which is non pursuit rated.
Don't chase bad guys and bad girls in a Chevy Volt.
It's not pursuit rated.
These vehicles are now available in front wheel drive,
rear wheel drive, and all wheel drive configurations.
So, again, depending on the vehicle type
and your requirements, we have a drive train for every occasion.
Horsepower is available in special options.
For example, the Dodge Charger is an absolute beast
in its low bid, but it's also available
with hemi and all wheel drive.
It's just an amazing vehicle.
We do know that it's available in E85 through 2018 and 2019.
And, of course, the hybrid is available in the Ford Fusion
and that will be in April.
And the electrical system is extremely robust which means is
that it's designed for the equipment that's on it.
If you need to add any optional additional electrical systems
or equipment on the vehicle it can handle that load,
however do be aware there is the, our aftermarket policy
for additional equipment that has to be followed.
So if you're going to add something to it, you need to get
with your FSR so they can get the appropriate approvals
to do so.
The 10 Bravo, again, is the same full size sedan.
The difference is it's not pursuit rated.
It is a law enforcement vehicle.
It is available in street appearance packages
so if you want it to look like a civilian vehicle, it can.
If you want to make it look
like a unmarked police vehicle, you can.
Your FSR has that information.
Very, very, very versatile vehicles to be upfitted.
We offer them with upfit packages as well.
The aftermarket and the factory service is nationwide.
Again, you roll it into the Ford or the Dodge dealer,
they take care of it during the warranty.
This is the first time
that ballistic protection will be available as OEM equipment.
It is available on the Ford Taurus and the Dodge Charger.
It's a VR6 rated which means they will repel repeated AK47
or AR15 gunfire on the door panels below the glass line.
And, again, these vehicles are not designed for fuel economy.
They're designed for performance,
reliability, and durability.
So work with your SFR is you have an issue with ESA and EPAC
as far as compliance because the E85 engine is available
in this class.
Let's take a look at the next group.
New entrants into law enforcement is looking
at our 55 series to 59 alpha full size pickup trucks.
As you can see on the left, we have a K9,
a military dog working available.
We're working with Dan Mohn.
I'm thinking of adding an optional equipment for the dog.
German shepherd, pick one.
Doberman, pick two.
And on the right is the both pursuit
and non-pursuit related half-ton pickup trucks.
These are available from the Ford Motor Company
and from the RAM Truck division of Fiat Chrysler Automobile.
Again, these are designed and configured
by the OEM's for law enforcement.
These are LEO trucks.
They're just not pickup trucks off the shelf.
Currently there are no GM trucks available on this contract
but there will be a notice going up tomorrow that most
of the GM pickup trucks will be closed out in mid-December
and they will be gone for 18 months.
General Motors is redesigning the Silverado
and the Sierra pickup lines for GMC
and we will not have them again until fiscal year 1919
and 2020 contracts so they're going dark.
So we'll have them available in Ford
and we'll have them available in RAM.
Again, same thing with your engines and drive trains.
They're calibrated for long periods of idle so they're made
to be idled but at the same time,
please follow the maintenance schedules that are recommended
by your fleet service representative
for oil changes and other checks.
There's enhanced performing, performance
and handling characteristics to these vehicles
which means they have special shocks, special struts
if they're front wheel drive, coiled springs in tires
which means when it comes time for maintenance
and vehicle replacement, got to follow the recommendation
on these vehicles in order to keep them
in the original condition as sold.
They're available in two wheel drive
and four wheel drive configurations
which is pretty cool.
Engine horsepower is available special options.
Again, big V8 engines are available only in the RAM.
Ford offers in the 3.5 liter V6 turbo charged.
There are E85 engines available this year and next year.
The electrical system is extremely robust
to handle what comes from the factory.
But again, if you find a need that you have
to add special equipment that's not offered by GSA,
you go through the same aftermarket upfit approval
process with your FSR and seek approval and justification
from GSA to add that equipment but the vehicle won't be able
to handle it electrically.
These are also available in non-pursuit missions
which means order a non-pursuit pickup truck, you're going
to save $6,000 right off the bat.
It's absolutely critical if you're going to use these,
again, the idea of the pursuit rated was looking
at the National Park Service, the Forest Service,
and the folks out at Bureau of Land Management that use them
as true pursuit, you get it.
If you don't, go with non-pursuit.
Saves the taxpayers some money.
Very well supported in the upfitter community.
Standardized platform for what we call pursuit
and special services.
If you'd like it to look like a dude truck, it can be made
that way with all the law enforcement equipment buried
into it and you light it up and it looks like a police vehicle.
So it's a great, great application for undercover.
Great for durability, reliability, and performance.
That's what they're engineered for.
We now have ballistic protection available
in the Ford version of these trucks.
There's OEM equipment.
Again, it will VR6, AK47, AR15 gunfire.
It's available in a K9 as well
as a military working dog package.
The picture that you saw.
It's available now with Ford
and in the RAM truck it will be available in early May.
So you may miss the CAM ordering cycle for the RAM,
but the Ford will meet that need as well.
Again, these are designed for performance, reliability,
and durability over fuel economy.
So if you are having issues with EPAC and EISA,
our alt fuel folks can help you with that, so can your FSR
if there are E85 engines available.
The pursuit rated half-ton F-150 and RAM's are due in April.
Again, I mentioned they're going
through their certification testing.
They're only available
in half-ton chassis's, folks, for '18.
We do have an engineer package for a three-quarter ton
but right now we have no customer take rate.
We thought we would engineer one to keep it on the shelf
so if we do get a significant take rate
from a leasing customer,
happy to quote you a lease rate and order that truck.
The bread and butter line, 100 Lima.
These are the police sport utility vehicles.
On the left is the Ford Interceptor.
Civilian version is known as the Ford Explorer.
On the right is the full size Chevrolet Tahoe.
These utility vehicles are designed
for law enforcement missions.
They are pursuit rated.
Chevrolet Tahoe is a special order item only.
We do not have factory installed equipment from General Motors.
We work through a second party upfitter.
They are available through GSA fleet
on a special use exemption.
So what happens is your FSR will view the contacts
through their normal channels to seek approval.
So if you are going to be ordering a sport U,
you can expect you're going to get a Ford Interceptor
and the Chevrolet Tahoe only on a special use exemption.
So I would say call purchasing prior to customer commitment.
They are ready to be delivered once approved.
Again, the engines are designed for long idling periods
so please follow the maintenance schedule as recommended
by your fleet service rep.
Great handling and performance.
These big SUV's can turn on a dime
and gives you nine cents change.
They're really, really designed for handling
and performance in pursuit.
Pursuit rating on these vehicles are standard.
You don't have to have your FSR order any special code.
It comes as pursuit rated.
It's available in two wheel, four wheel drive,
and all wheel drive configurations.
And let me give a little point of clarity here.
Huge difference between four wheel drive and all wheel drive.
All wheel drive means is that only two wheels have power
and it transfers power when a wheel begins to slip like on ice
or on a low-traction surface, where all wheel drive --
excuse me -- where four wheel drive means all four wheels have
direct power from the engine and transmission.
So please don't get those confused.
If you're ordering all wheel drive, you're going
to get a vehicle that runs
on two wheels unless the other wheels need
to have the power transferred.
Where four wheel drive is going to give you power all the time.
Engine horsepower packages are available
in higher capacity V6's and V8's.
We strongly recommend V8 engines if your customers are going
to be towing or if it's in a Ford,
they go at a 3.5 liter ECO boost engine which is turbo charged.
Anything smaller than that going to be difficult I believe as far
as operating that vehicle and expecting it to perform.
E85 is available through the remainder
of this fiscal year on these vehicles.
Extremely robust electrical systems.
What makes the advantage on the GM Tahoe, the Chevrolet Tahoe,
it's on a full ladder frame.
This is built on the same chassis as the Silverado truck.
So if your customer is going to be carrying very heavy payloads,
towing very heavy stuff, or taking the vehicle
in an unoffroad situation,
that full ladder frame is going to be desired.
Again, it is not low bid.
You'll have to go through the process with your FSR,
get a functional use exemption to go forward with this vehicle.
And, again, these vehicles are designed
for performance and reliability.
Fuel economy is not a priority on these.
And as I mentioned, we recommend going with the big V6
or the big V8 if you are going to be towing.
So a few of our customers: The Bureau of Land Management,
National Park Services, areas where you're taking it offroad,
probably the vehicle of choice.
We can prepare, these are the, these can be configured
and utilized for special services such as non-pursuit.
The Dodge Durango will be entering the GSA family in July.
So it's good to have the Durango back.
It'll be available in two wheel and all wheel drive,
and they'll be a package available
in that vehicle as well.
Again, very well supported in the market space
so this is a great optimum solution for durability,
reliability, and performance.
We will have this vehicle at fed fleet.
If you're coming to Washington, D.C., this late January
and February, you will see it.
And they will be offering ballistic equipment
on this vehicle so Ford will have competition in the market.
As of now only Ford offers it as a 100 Lima.
Dodge will be offering it
with the Durango in July of next year.
Let's take a look.
We call them the 22's.
They're actually going to be rebadged as the item 30's.
These are the prisoner transports.
What you're seeing here is the Ford Transit,
number two roof height, with the six-passenger Havis prisoner
detention system.
Again, these vehicles are going through testing for crash.
They're going to be available in the RAM brand
and by the Ford Motor Company.
GM will not participate in this market.
There will be no Chevy Express available with an upfit package.
And Sprinter will be coming in on the fiscal year '19 contract
with a prisoner transport vehicle.
They're pending NHTSA approval.
We expect it late April.
There will be an announcement coming forward.
Fuel types, these are strictly going to be gasoline and diesel.
There will be no E85 fuel in this class of vehicle.
Something to note that the Ford Transit is a rear wheel
drive vehicle.
The Dodge RAM ProMaster is a front wheel drive vehicle.
Again, the difference in the drive train.
The difference also is the RAM is a very low shut height
vehicle, very low off the road.
So probably easier to put a prisoner that's chained
and handcuffed into the vehicle than the Ford
because the Ford is the standard height.
And it's available in three roof heights.
The high top version is not fiberglass bolted
on like a turtle top in the bad old days.
These are stamped sheet metal so they're very robust.
They have special countermeasures
on these vehicles to handle riding in the high winds.
They have stability control on the vehicle.
Pretty cool, pretty cool technology in both versions.
And these will only be available with the GSA packages
for upfit equipment 05, 07, or 32.
And it's available as a marked police vehicle as you've seen
in the photograph or we can make it in the undercover version
that looks like a regular street transit van.
Let's take a look at the 105 alpha then the 105 charlies.
These are the special services packages.
These are full size SUV's.
The upper left you have the new Ford Expedition.
The upper right you have the Chevrolet Tahoe.
And at the bottom you have the new Dodge Durango.
These are de-contented vehicles by the OEM.
These are not designed for law enforcement per se.
And what I mean by that, they're not pursuit rated.
The Expedition by Ford and the Chevy Tahoe's are available now.
Dodge Durango will be out in late April.
But we've put heavy duty upgrades
that are specific to GSA.
Bigger tires, bigger wheels, bigger shocks, struts, brakes,
cooling, and electrical systems on these vehicles.
These are great alternatives
to the full size pursuit rated vehicle if you're going
to use them as a supervisory vehicle,
as an evidence technician, as a food inspector because of plenty
of cargo, plenty of payload, plenty of room.
They're only available now in all wheel drive
or rear wheel drive Have to chew on that one.
Four wheel drive is no longer available in this class in order
for them to meet fuel economy.
We have bigger engines that are available by special order.
There are E85 engines available through this fiscal year.
These can be engineered and configured
for special services like I mentioned.
One big request that we have
that we're engineering now is a fire battalion vehicle
for fire chiefs that contain everything
from basic life support, defibrillators,
as well as other technical information,
as well as arson investigation.
Extremely robust electrical systems on these vehicles.
We have two of them engineered now.
One's a military working dog or K9.
The other one is an undercover vehicle.
Looks like a very, very nice big SUV
but when you throw the switches, it lights up like a meteor
as far as takedown lights,
law enforcement lights, and additional power.
So we have two packages of that.
Again, for leasing customers this requires a functional
exemption through your FSR.
It is not low bid so, again,
we ask special attention be given to this.
We say call purchasing prior to customer commitment.
That'll be through your FSR and through your normal channels
of approving a deviation from low bid.
Great vehicle.
Again, what's really cool about this one,
it's a very good solution for durability,
and reliability, and performance.
It gets better fuel economy than the full size pursuit vehicles.
Durability is still key on this vehicle.
And we do recommend the big V6 or V8 if you are going
to be towing a boat or any other special equipment
with this vehicle.
The last in the sport utilities is the beast.
It is the Chevrolet Suburban one ton full size utility,
GSA item 108.
This vehicle is designed specifically
for law enforcement missions.
It's designed specifically for the petrochemical
and the mining industry.
It's available in one ton only.
GM went out and surveyed customers
and there's a huge demand for it.
They're the only global manufacturer building a full
size SUV on a full ladder frame.
The engine is designed for long periods of idle,
special calibrations,
please follow the maintenance that's recommended by your FSR.
Amazing handling performance on a vehicle that's
about the size of a city block.
Turns very well, very tight turning radius,
very nimble on its steering.
It's available in two wheel and four wheel configurations only.
The rear wheel drive is two wheel drive.
It's only available in gasoline.
There's no diesel, no E85.
Extremely robust electrical system.
I honestly believe that if you connect cabling to this vehicle,
you could probably light up the city of Arlington
for twenty minutes on its extra electrical capability
that it can produce on the vehicle.
It really, really does well with special equipment,
communications as an example.
It can be armored.
It's an excellent undercover vehicle.
We currently right now have sold about 40 of these
to the State Department.
We've armored them with about 14,000 pounds of armor.
The vehicle eats it up.
It handles well.
It drives well.
But again, we don't offer the armor as a lease package
but it is something that's available
to our purchase customers.
Again, once it's upfitted, you roll it into a Chevrolet dealer,
it's bumper to bumper, three years, 36,000 miles,
they handle everything.
Currently right now we have a package that we refer
to as VIPR that's readily available.
It is a undercover law enforcement vehicle.
It transports eight officers and body armor very efficiently,
and effectively, and comfortably
with its extra capacity air conditioning
and electrical system.
So again, it does require a functional use exemption.
Work through your FSR and your local manager
to seek approval on these vehicles.
It's not pursuit rated.
This vehicle is designed for payload.
It can only tow about 500 pounds.
So your payload is 8,200 pounds.
So this vehicle is designed to haul equipment,
undercover equipment such as dukes and jammers,
as well as weapons locker, and a lot of weapons.
So that's what it's designed for.
It's quite expensive.
It's about $71,000 is the GSA purchase price
that we have on contract.
There are lease rates available.
Your FSR will be able to hand you that.
And the mileage is pretty low.
It's about 11 miles to a gallon going down a hill
with a 50 mile an hour wind blowing on your lift gate.
It average customers telling us about 11 miles per gallon
so if fuel economy is critical, this is not the vehicle for you.
It's designed for that specific mission.
These are not available for lease but I'm putting them
in here because, again, a good number of you folks
out there have inquired about low speed electric vehicles.
And GSA does sell these vehicles and they're a great solution
if you're going to be using them in a very limited area
which we call a closed captive fleet or a campus.
For example, we've sold a lot of these to Health
and Human Services, Walter Reed, and the like,
where basically they want to drive around a parking lot
or a campus area to check such things
as security checkpoints and the like.
They're available preconfigured from our suppliers
such as John Deere, Polaris, Jim [assumed spelling],
that already have law enforcement equipment
which means is they have the light bar,
they have the police placards that are on them,
and the ability to plug in a portable radio charger off
of the 36 or 48 volt electrical system.
They have about 40 miles or less of range.
They're very easy to charge.
They plug into a 115 electrical outlet.
They charge in about five hours and are readily available.
They're not pursuit rated.
You can't use them on public roads.
But, again, it may be something to consider instead
of buying maybe that full size law enforcement vehicle
that just may be sitting on the corner.
Might be a more cost effective solution.
Again, they are available for purchase.
They are not available for lease.
Let's kind of take some final thoughts.
These are very complex vehicles that we've talked
about today along with buses, and ambulances, and the like.
So we developed the requirements.
It takes time.
We do all this for you.
We've developed the requirements by working
with you as customers.
We've engineered requirements.
We've developed the independent government cost estimates.
We went out, we got these vehicles on contract
because GSA is the mandatory source.
We've done all the work for you.
So, again, as a leasing customer we want to thank you.
We hope that if you have other vehicles that you want to lease
that you seriously consider consolidating and look
at that GSA fleet leasing value proposition.
Sooner is better on the orders.
So if you're ready to place your law enforcement orders
with your FSR, I would suggest you do that and try to get
that done as soon as possible, well ahead of the deadline.
First come, first get delivered.
So please keep that in mind.
Also keep in mind is not every vehicle could be upfitted
with aftermarket equipment.
I know there's a lot of commercials out there
of a Toyota Prius with law enforcement equipment.
We're working on it.
There are some vehicles, especially electrics
that have works well, but keep in mind, you can't put a lot
of the equipment that's
on a pursuit rated vehicle on a Chevy Malibu.
It's not designed for that.
So talk to your FSR.
They'll talk with us and we'll make a great recommendation
for a vehicle.
And, again, you've got questions,
please work through your FSR.
Happy to answer any questions that you may have
on other vehicles as well.
But work within the GSA chain of command
with your service customer.
Want to thank you guys.
Again, I'm Len Fedoruk and, again,
here's our vehicle buying Dan Mohn and Mike Chipman are
on point for the law enforcement.
They're happy to answer those questions
with your FSR as well as with you.
And with that, we will open it
up to any questions that you have.
Thanks again.
>> Does GSA have any source for scooters?
>> Yeah. Scooters are available.
They are available on two schedules.
Or actually three.
Schedule 84 has electric scooter for law enforcement
which also includes a three-wheel scooter
if you're here in the National Capital region.
They also have a two-wheel electric scooter that's
available in schedule 51.
And I believe we do have a motorized scooter available
in schedule 23V.
If you send me your contact information to my email,
I'll be happy to put you in touch
with the contracting officer that can share
that information with you.
They are available for purchase but they are not lease eligible.
This is the one about camera packages, Len.
>> And are those systems specifically wondering
if you can get any of those in a package or [inaudible] [SLL3]if
that would be an add-on.
They're talking about the cameras for I guess
for plate readers and things like that.
>> That is really an aftermarket add-on that would be done
through your functional usage -- excuse me --
your aftermarket approval policy through your FSR.
So if you're looking exactly for that as Dan Mohn just mentioned
for plate readers or the like, depending on the vehicle,
the current 100 Limas is the 17's.
We were told the 17H, the new hybrids will be able
to handle the voltage draw on that system as well.
But, yes, that's equipment that can be available
through an AIE cost and installation so work
through your FSR on that.
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>> Okay. We do have several questions
in the chat so we'll go through.
I'll read the question aloud
and then the experts are going to answer.
Do the options have photos
of how the equipment is installed and the layout?
>> We are in the midst right now of doing
that with our two suppliers.
About approximately 50% of the packages have been built.
So they will be, the majority of them I would say by the end
of January will be available on the website.
If you have the specific package right now
that you're interested in, just send a request through
and we'll see if we can get you a photograph layout
of the equipment.
>> Does the Ford service have agency guidance?
>> That's a very good question.
Scott Bark Lacey is, has contacted us about looking
at a law enforcement vehicles.
We currently have 33 packages that are available right now.
And, again, those packages are up on our website
in the Federal Standards.
We requested a meeting with him.
Hopefully that will be coming up soon.
We'd like him to select from one of those 33 packages
so you will have some agency guidance.
Currently right now the only one we do have is
with the United States Park Police.
If you're interested, again, I would probably move that up
through your chain indicating that, "Hey,
is there guidance coming forward?"
and you may want to submit some input to your leadership
so it moves up the chain to here in Washington
in the Department of Interior.
Jack is asking how do I download this presentation?
It'll be available.
I believe we post it on the web -- .
Its available now.
It's available there now?
You can download it right from the screen.
>> Yeah. And you can't, you got to click on it
and then there will be a Download File
that will become ungrayed.
I don't know how to say that.
Also we will be posting a recorded version
to the GSA YouTube channel.
That will take a couple weeks with all of the processing
and things we have to do internally
with our communications team.
But it will eventually be up there.
So that is another option as well.
Back to the specific questions about the vehicles.
With the 105A, could that vehicle be upfitted
with lights and sirens?
>> The vehicle, yes, will handle lights and sirens.
Currently right now it's only available in the Ford Expedition
and the package right now is waiting to be released.
That's a basic law enforcement package.
Again, if there's a demand for that vehicle,
we'd have to know what the numbers are,
but the 105 is available for our purchase customers
and we'll have to check what's available
for our fleet customers.
Dan, is there any -- ?
>> We do have the LU50 option the NOAA unmarked SUV.
>> Okay.
>> And I believe, I believe that's the only one
that we have in the 105A's.
Which comes with interior visor lights and some marker lights
on the side of the vehicle.
It comes in an Explorer or Grand Cherokee.
>> Dan I think this question goes back to -- .
>> Push bumpers.
>> Some questions you were answering about the push bumper.
But are you talking about the wrap around
or just the push bumper?
>> They're talking about push bumpers and the wrap arounds
in the front of the vehicles.
Those have not been FMVS certified by the manufacturers
and until a time that those are certified by the manufacturers,
cannot be installed on our federal fleet.
>> And is the 108 leasable or are certain packages armor,
VIPR, et cetera, purchase only?
>> I can -- .
We will be leasing VIPR package if the requirement is there
and if there's a justification for that.
So if you have a requirement for it, please send myself an email
or Dan Buckingham an email.
It's daniel.buckingham@gsa.gov,
or daniel.mohn, M-O-H-N, @gsa.gov.
>> And if you don't want to, if you don't lease it,
we could sell it to you.
>> Exactly.
>> What about a flash light install?
Is that possible?
>> Flash lights are included in specific packages.
And because it's considered a high pilferage item,
and everyone has a different choice of flash light,
certain packages will have it and certain packages will not.
The Park Police packages we know right now do have it.
They decided on it.
FDS is still up in the air so as
of now we suggest you get your own flash light.
>> Where can we find out what an outfitting package includes,
and then they went on to talk
about specific packages they're interested in,
but I think the general questions
of where do they get those details the key thing there..
>> They're available in the Federal Standards but, Robert,
if you send me an email, I'll be happy to send you a link
and you'll be good to see.
But, again, the guidance is set really by your agency.
So if your agency has already set guidance
on a law enforcement package and you want something different,
you'll have to fight it up your chain.
>> There's a question, where can I get a list of the lease costs?
One great way is to contact your FSR.
If you don't know who your FSR is, any of the points of contact
that you've heard listed you could reach out to
and we can help you with that.
Your FSR is always your first point of contact for any
of your needs for leasing and for purchasing as well
because we can put you in touch with the right people as well.
There is some information about lease rates posted
on the GSA website as well.
I don't know if the law enforcement ones are
in there though because I know it's sort
of a truncated version of it.
>> I never heard the last part of what she said.
>> That's okay.
I think we're good there.
Any ability to select specific make and model or must order
by category and get whatever Ford, Chevy,
Dodge that is available?
>> On that particular question, that comes up quite a lot.
This year on a lot
of the packages there's a big difference
in the cost of the vehicles.
A low bid is generally what we will purchase
and just dependent upon the package
that whether there's going to be a Ford or GM vehicle
with the upfit package.
If you require something other than what the low bid is,
you will need a justification
as to why you need the other vehicle.
>> What brand is used for siren boxes?
>> It's irrelevant to us.
We do not do by brand.
We do by performance specifications
so the OEM's basically select.
>> I like the expanded options.
I noticed one group missing
from your task force is the Inspector General community.
Will GSA continue to update LE upfit options?
If so, will they consider including the Council
on Inspector General on Economy and Efficiency on the process?
>> The interesting thing is the program was really to accomplish
about the big customers as far as leasing.
Again, we'd like to have that conversation
if you send me an email, I'd like to kind
of see what your thoughts are.
Like to see how many vehicles you are.
Again, even though a package may not be available for leasing,
we do have our special vehicle order program which means
that we could design
and engineer a law enforcement package
for the OIG for specific needs.
The only difference is is you would have
to pay for that package.
It would not be subject to the GSA leasing program.
So about ten percent of the market we know out there,
we've had this conversation, for example,
like with D.C. government.
They kind of have a unique vehicle
but there's not enough volume for us
to support a package with the OEM.
We need 250 vehicles over a two-year period in order
for Ford and FCA to consider building a package.
But we're happy to talk about it and see what your needs are,
see if we can find something that fits.
If not, we could talk about the cost
of engineering a package, selecting a vehicle.
You could still lease the GSA vehicle.
The only difference is is the upfit package would be billed
back as a direct AIE.
And my email is available on the slide.
>> So this I think is a good question.
Can one agency lease a package designed for another agency?
>> Yes. All the packages are going to be available
for any other customers.
There are specific packages that are available specifically
for DOD, FPS, NOAA, TSA, and there's one more.
>> Park Police.
>> U.S. Park Police.
But other than that, those packages will be available
to any of our customers.
The only stipulation is is like for DOD packages
where they have graphics, if you are not a DOD entity,
there will be no graphics on those particular vehicles.
>> And the reason why they have specific names is those were the
customers that were initially part
of the interagency team that put it together.
It was just easier instead of calling out numbers,
to say let's talk about the Park Police package.
So, yes, it is available.
>> Do the FSR's have vehicle option codes available
in specific package options?
I think they must be asking if they have the information.
>> All the information has been pushed
to our internal website from GSA.
So the FSR's do have access to those packages in the,
and what is installed in each of those packages.
>> Let's go back up quick before that to Kevin Rhodes.
Kevin, I see that you said you have 3500 IGLE officers.
Do all 3500 have vehicles?
So, again, that's something we'd like to have in a conversation
so you could reach me at area code 571-329-8417 and what I'd
like to do is have that conversation with you
and with the individual that would be responsible
for authorizing vehicle purchases or leases.
And I'll get John DiPasquale involved
and let's have a conversation.
Happy to help.
>> Are there hybrid Ford Explorers available?
>> There are not.
We talked with the Ford Motor Company on that.
It is not going to be available.
The Explorer as we know it will be going away in 2022.
It will be redesigned and reengineered.
As of now there is no hybrid available
in the sport utility vehicle in that class.
>> So the question is what restrictions does our agency
have to upfit our current 2014 civilian Impalas
with LEO undercover equipment, just lights and sirens?
I'm assuming those must be agency owned
because at this point if you've got 2014's that are on leases,
they're probably going to be replaced -- .
>> Correct.
Those are going to be replaced this year or
>> Very, very soon.
>> On any GSA vehicle that you're leasing and you're going
to add equipment to it, your FSR will be able to walk you
through the process of getting the approval
which we call our aftermarket upfit policy.
If they're agency owned vehicles, like Stacy has said,
because they're 2014's, you're free to add that equipment
but what I would suggest that you may want
to consider is looking at GSA schedules 23V or schedule 84
and go with one of our upfitters that are already
on a pre-negotiated contract that would be familiar
with installing that equipment on your vehicle
if you don't have professional mechanic services at a garage.
When you start cutting into a vehicle's electrical system
and adding loads, electrical loads, and mounting,
and drilling in certain places where you cannot,
they would be very familiar with that.
>> Does a 100L Tahoe 4 by 4 have a lowered ground clearance?
The ground clearance on that vehicle is 8.1 inches
for the Tahoe.
Even as a four by four.
Is that Melissa, is that the one you're looking at?
>> Is the 105C SVC package available for the LE upfitting?
>> It is not.
At least on the leasing side.
105C?
Yeah.
>> Happy to do another purchasing side.
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>> I think you're just talking about the vehicle type
that you're looking to get.
And if you're a leasing customer, there's a couple
of things that come into play there.
The key thing is what your agency says about that,
what your agency headquarters dictates.
So that may be your first, your first stop and your first go-to.
I think we'll have time for just about one or two more questions.
We do have a hard stop at 2:30.
The system will actually kick us out if we get
to that point in time.
Is there a full size Tahoe four by four
for off road use available?
>> Interesting question.
There are some suspension
and tire packages available for the Tahoe.
Depends on what you determine to be off road use.
If you're talking about going through the Rubicon,
I'm going to tell you no.
If you're talking about taking it off of the highway and going
to unimproved roads such as hard packed clay,
loose gravel, and the like, yes.
And there are options that are available
that can accommodate that.
Jeep might be a better value for you,
even though it's a little bit smaller
because of the trail rating on the vehicle.
But if you like to give me a call
and tell me what your intended purpose is,
we can see if we can find you a vehicle.
See we got -- .
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The audio cut out some and the speaker jumped
around a little bit.
But I believe with these edits we have the correct meaning
of what was said.
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if they wanted me to read the question
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