>>> THEY WERE OBVIOUSLY INVESTIGATING RUSSIA'S ATTEMPT
TO INFLUENCE THE 2016 ELECTION AND THEY ASKED ME TO COME
FORWARD TO GIVE TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE WHAT I KNEW ABOUT
THAT AND I WAS HAPPY TO COOPERATE WITH THE COMMITTEE IN
THEIR INVESTIGATION OF RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE WITH THE DEMOCRATIC
PROCESS IN THE UNITED STATES, CHAIRMAN ASKED ME TO RESPECT THE
FACT THAT I WOULD, THAT THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
WOULD STAY IN THE ROOM AND NOT COME OUT HERE TO THE CAMERAS.
>> THAT WAS FORMER CLINTON CAMPAIGN CHAIR MON JOHN PODESTA
WHOSE HACKED PERSONAL EMAILS WERE THE FOCAL POINT OF THE
ELECTION. JOINING US FROM WASHINGTON,
RANKING MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN ADAM
SCHIFF OF CALIFORNIA. WE WANT TO ASK YOU MORE ABOUT
THAT BUT I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOUR TAKE IS ON THE WHITE HOUSE
CALLING THE WHOLE THING THE RUSSIA HOAX.
>> WELL, OF COURSE THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF PRESIDENT
STRATEGY TO TRY TO DEMEAN, DOWNPLAY THE INVESTIGATION AND
THE IRONY THIS WEEK WHICH IS SO INESCAABLE IS THE PRESIDENT IS
CRITICIZING HIS PREDECESSOR FOR NOT DOING MORE TO SPEAK OUT ON
RUSSIA, AT THE VERY TIME THE PRESIDENT, THE CURRENT PRESIDENT
IS REFUSING TO SPEAK OUT ON RUSSIA.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
COULD DO TODAY TO PROTECT US IN THE FUTURE IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE
WHAT RUSSIA DID TO HELP THE COUNTRY PREPARE FOR WHEN THEY
MAY DO THIS AGAIN, TO DEVELOP A NATIONAL CONSENSUS THAT NO
MATTER WHO IS HELPS OR WHO IT HURTS BOTH PARTIES WILL REJECT
ANY FOREIGN INTERFERENCE. THAT IS THE SINGLE MOST
IMPORTANT WAY TO INOCULATE THE COUNTRY AGAINST FOREIGN
INTERFERENCE AND THE PRESIDENT IS NOT DOING IT.
INSTEAD IS STILL BLAMING HIS PREDECESSOR.
>> WILLIE? >> SO LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT A
TWEET YOU SENT OUT, CONGRESSMAN, WHERE YOU ARE ADDRESSING
PRESIDENT TRUMP. NO, MR. PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT OBAMA DID NOT WANT TO BE PERCEIVED AS HELPING CLINTON.
THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE. EVERYTHING SINCE HAS BEEN YOURS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS THE CORE MISTAKE OF THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT
"WASHINGTON POST" PIECE LAST WEEK, ONE FORMER ADMINISTRATION
OFFICIAL WAS SAYING "WE KIND OF CHOKED IN REGARDS TO OUR
RESPONSE TO RUSSIA'S INTERFERENCE.
WHAT SHOULD THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAVE DONE THAT IT
DID NOT DO? >> WELL, I THINK WHAT THEY
SHOULD HAVE DONE, AND YOU KNOW, SENATOR FEINSTEIN AND I WERE
MAKING THIS CASE IN REAL TIME, SO THIS ISN'T SIMPLY OUR MONDAY
MORNING QUARTERBACKING, WE WERE URGING THE PRESIDENT TO COME OUT
AND MAKE ATTRIBUTION EARLY, TO DECLASSIFY AS MUCH AS HE COULD
ABOUT THE RUSSIAN INTERVENTION AND PURSUE SANCTIONS THEN, NOT
WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. AS IT TURNED OUT SENATOR
FEINSTEIN AND I HAD TO DO OUR OWN ATTRIBUTION BECAUSE WE
COULDN'T SUCCESSFULLY PERSUADE THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO IT.
WHEN THEY DID IT THE FOLLOWING MONTH IN OCTOBER BEFORE THE
ELECTION IT WASN'T ENOUGH TO IMPRESS UPON THE PUBLIC THE
SERIOUSNESS OF WHAT RUSSIA WAS DOING AND I THINK THEY DID THAT
FOR PERHAPS UNDERSTANDABLE REASONS.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE PERCEIVED AS INFLUENCING THE OUTCOME OF
THE ELECTION. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY INTO A
NARRATIVE THAT THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO RIG THE ELECTION.
>> BUT CONGRESSMAN, SHOULDN'T THE SECURITY OF OUR ELECTION
SYSTEM AND OF OUR DEMOCRACY, FRANKLY, OF A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT
INTERVENING SUPERSEDED ANY PERCEPTION PROBLEMS OR NARRATIVE
PROBLEMS THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT?
>> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.
AND INDEED THIS WAS PRECISELY THE CASE THAT SENATOR FEINSTEIN
AND I WERE MAKING. WE DIDN'T MAKE THAT
SUCCESSFULLY. THEY DID MAKE ATTRIBUTION BUT
ONLY IN A WRITTEN STATEMENT BY TWO ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS,
THE HEAD OF THE OFFICE OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AS WELL AS
THE SECRETARY OF DHS, BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
I THINK THAT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC'S NEED TO KNOW OUTWEIGHED
THOSE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, ALL OF WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN MANAGED
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WAS NOT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE
ELECTION TO TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT A FOREIGN POWER WAS
TRYING TO DO, AND AS WELL TO TAKE STEPS TO DETER FURTHER
INTERFERENCE DURING THE CAMPAIGN, BECAUSE ONE OF THE
OTHER CONCERNS THAT I HAD WAS THAT, IN THE ABSENCE OF A MORE
FORCEFUL RESPONSE AND IN THE ABSENCE OF ATTRIBUTION, THEY
WERE GIVING A GREEN LIGHT TO CONTINUED RUSSIAN INTERVENTION.
>> KASIE HUNT HAS A QUESTION. KASIE?
>> CONGRESSMAN, YOU HEARD FROM JOHN PODESTA YESTERDAY.
SOME OF YOUR COLLEAGUES ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE SUGGESTED THAT
THAT WAS A REPUBLICAN PUSH. I'M WONDERING IF YOU AGREE WITH
THAT. DID YOU LEARN ANY VALUABLE FROM
MR. OWE DES TA AND WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO LEARN FROM ROGER STONE
IN JULY? >> I THINK IT WAS VALUABLE TO
BRING JOHN PODESTA IN. PART OF OUR MISSION IS NOT ONLY
TO DETERMINE WHAT THE RUSSIANS DID AND WHETHER THE RUSSIANS HAD
THE HELP OF ANY U.S. PERSONS, BUT ALSO WHAT WAS THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT RESPONSE? HOW DID THEY RESPOND, HOW DID
THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, THE FBI, THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
SECURITY RESPOND WHEN WE LEARNED THE RUSSIANS WERE IN OUR
COMPUTERS? HOW DID THEY RESPOND WHEN JOHN
PODESTA LEARNED THAT HIS EMAILS HAD BEEN HACKED?
THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY WENT TO THE CORE OF OUR DEMOCRATIC PROCESS,
AND WE NEED TO LEARN BECAUSE AS JAMES COMEY SAID, THE RUSSIANS
WILL BE BACK OR MORE ACCURATELY IN MY VIEW, THE RUSSIANS HAVE
NEVER LEFT. SO I THINK HIS TESTIMONY WAS
HELPFUL, WAS IMPORTANT. WE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID TO FIND
OUT THE ANSWERS TO ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS, AND THIS IS I THINK A
CORE AREA OF OUR INTEREST. IN TERMS OF MR. STONE, OBVIOUSLY
THERE'S BEEN A LOT SAID IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE.
I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL ABOUT IT, BUT YOU
KNOW, HE HAS SAID AT VARIOUS TIMES THAT HE WAS IN CONTACT
WITH JULIAN ASSANGE, THAT HE HAD DIRECT TWITTER COMMUNICATIONS
WITH GOOSER FOR TWO, THIS KNOWN CUTOUT FOR RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE
AND OF COURSE HE MADE THOSE STATEMENTS THAT JOHN PODESTA'S
TIME IN THE BARREL WAS COMING, AND THEN OF COURSE JOHN
PODESTA'S EMAILS WERE HACKED AND PUBLISHED.
SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT'S IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN THAT WILL
BE A SUBJECT OF INTEREST, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO TOO MANY
OF THE
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