As a generation of people you've reached the place where everything else is in place.
only the human being is not in place.
like we have comforts like never before, we have
conveniences like never before, in every way we are the most comfortable generation ever
on this planet.
Materially.
but we cannot say ,we're the most joyful generation of
the planet, we cannot say we are the most peaceful or loving of any of these things.
so everything else is in place like never before.
only the human being is displaced within himself.
so when I say meditative I'm not talking about
meditation as some practice, I'm talking about meditation as a quality
within ourselves.
if we set the right kind of conditions in our body, in our minds, emotions
and our life energies, meditation will blossom within us.
it's not something that we do, it's something that we become.
so I feel right now this is the most important thing that
needs to happen.
for the tremendous potential that human beings hold in their hands, because
of access to technology and science and various other possibilities that we have, if only
the necessary blossoming happens within the human being, which every human being is capable
of, we will create a fabulous world and I think as a generation we should strive for
that.
I totally agree, in fact I was just talking with you before we started that you
and I are very close to the same age.
now I'm hundred and one years.
more than you.
–OK, but it makes me wonder what your life was like growing up?
I know what my life was like growing up here in middle Tennessee,
It was wonderful , I had wonderful parents and opportunity for education, spiritual background,
what was your life like growing up? -this may be a little unusual for people, but my
memory goes back to time when I was 3-4 months of age.
I remember small incidents, that happened around me.
not some earth-shaking major events.
I'm saying simple things.
I would even know what kind of dress my mother would be wearing.
what color she would be.. when I mentioned this things to her, she would be shocked,
she said how can you remember this? so my memory goes back like this, because of this
in many ways, when I was 3-4 years of age, I was thinking about the same way, as I think
today.
either I never was a child, or I never grew up it's up to you to make the judgment.
So, because of that, I can say my life was not that of the usual child.
Because I never was one, my thought was just about like this
even at that moment I questioned everything.
this happened to me when I was 3-4 years of age that suddenly I realized actually I don't
know anything about anything.
it became like this that if they give me a glass of water
I would not know what water is.
I know how if I drink this it'll quench my thirst,
I can use it in so many ways, I know how to use it, but I do not know what water is.
Even today you do not know and nobody knows isn't
it? two thirds of the planet's is water, two thirds of your body is water and if you are
looking for life we look for a drop of water anywhere.
This is the only thing availability in all the three states, present in all the
three states on the planet.
in terms of being gaseous and liquid and solid.
We still do not know what water is.
if we actually look at it closely enough with all the scientific
exploration, we do not know even a single atom in its entirety.
That's a fact, we know it in parts, we know how to use everything,
but we do not know what it is.
when I was about 3,5 of years of age, this just truck
me so much, in such a way that if if I stared at the water I'll be staring at this water
for 3-4 hours at the stretch.
If I find a lief I've been looking at it for many many
hours, If I sit up in the night in the bed I'll be staring at the darkness the whole
night.
my dear father being a physician, he started thinking I need psychiatric evaluation.
my problem is I look at this and I don't know what this is.I'm not able to shift my attention
to anything else.
in this condition they sent me to school.
so my mother said you must pay attention to the teachers.
I played absolute attention to the teachers.
the kind of attention they were never received from anybody.
Initially, I heard the words they were talking.
after some time I realized they're only making
sounds, I'm making up the meanings in my mind.
right now if I start speaking in a language that you do not understand, it will be just
sounds for you.
now because.. you see, language is a conspiracy between two people.
if I make a sound you make a meaning in your mind.
when I realized that I'm making of the meanings I stop making the meanings and either watch
the teachers going on making sounds throughout the day, it became very amusing and a big
smile spread on my face.
they were not amused at all. this happened to me about five years
ago, the school where I studied, a little over four decades ago, there 125th anniversary,
they came to invite me.
I said the trustees of the school came, I said see why me?
I was not just a not good student ,I was not even
a student, why me?
so they said , our school has produced sports stars, film stars you
know federal ministers and all this, but you are the only mystic, so you have to come.
so I went to speak there, I just stood up in the corner and was looking at the school
after almost 45 years.
this classroom when I look at it looked at it I suddenly remembered,
I was around 12 years of age, as usual I was paying absolute attention to the teacher,
but I don't even hear the word, what they're talking I know the teachers past present and
future, but I cannot hear the word that they're speaking.
so the teachers try to get a response from me, after 35 to 40 minutes of futile
effort, he came held me by the shoulders shook me violently like this and said you must either
be the divine or the devil I think you're the later.
till that moment my problem was, I did not know what is this, what is that,
what is that everything was a question mark To me, but I knew one thing that this is me.
suddenly this man confused me about this also.
Now, I did not know whether this is divine, devil or what.
what is it? so I tried to stare at myself.
I closed my eyes and sat.
initially it was for hours.
then it moved like this, one day I sat down like this, I thought in
my experience it must be 25 -30 minutes, but when I open my eyes that was a big crowd around
me.
India being what it is, people were tugging at my feet and somebody wants to know about
their business, somebody wants to know when their daughter will get married.
all kinds of fancy things which I always had allergy
towards.
so when I asked when did you all appear from, they said you've been sitting
here for 13 days.
I thought it was just 25 -30 minutes.
time just started flipping in my experience.
if I just sit like this I think it's two minutes.
when I open my eyes, hours have just gone by.
so the experience of time just got completely mixed up within me.
what I thought was a minute would be like this
, 25-30 minutes turned out to be 13 days in other people's experience.
so from then on there was no looking back.
things involved in so many different ways, I cannot articulate
all of it .but one thing I saw was if I simply sit here ,I would be bursting with ecstasy.
then I thought this is so simple, you won't have to do anything, if you don't do anything
no mess in your mind.
if you sit here every cell in your body will burst forth with ecstasy.
so this is what I've been trying to rub off on other people.
I love that.
you're a mystic ,yogi, visionary.
-I'm not a mistake.
–no? you described as a mystic.
-I said I'm not a mistake.
–sorry about that Tenessee accent.. poet? you write poetry?
Yeah, I think I wrote one today morning I should have read it to
you.
-maybe I can get that later, so how do you advice other people to embrace that ecstasy,
to embrace that mindfulness?
my basic advise is to don't listen to anybody's advice.
because what is most fundamental to life, that which
is the source of life is already embedded in you.
why should you listen to me? because you're not listening to that which is the
basis of your creation.
you have listen to all kinds of people.
so my effort is just to provide people methods with which they
can.. when I say listen immediately people start hearing voices, so I would not say listen
to it, because mind is a home with 1 million rooms, so different
rooms of the mind, different strata of the mind you may start thinking his urinal, whatever..
what is the source of creation is functioning within you.
see if you eat a piece of bread it transforms itself into human body.
there is an intelligence here, there is a competence
here which can make a piece of bread into such a sophisticated technology, which we
call as a human system.
So, if only a drop of that intelligence entered your conscious
life, you will live magically.
so my effort is to give people methods through which they
can touch that.
Trough which they can bring that drop off the intelligence of the creation
into their daily life, where they can live magically instead of living miserably.
-Right, what are some of this methods? can you share
some of his methods?
Describe them or..
Or do people need to experience it?
They're experiential . this is why this is called
is inner engineering technologies for well-being.
it is not something that you.. it is not a teaching, it is not a philosophy, it is not
an ideology, it is not a belief system, it is a technology that means it is you just
have to learn how to use it, so why I am calling it a technology is, it does not matter what
you believe in all you don't believe in.
that's up to you.
it doesn't matter which culture you come from, it doesn't matter whether you're
a man or a woman, Or whatever you are.
if you learn to use it it'll works.
It's like, you take your phone, you take your blackberry,
maybe I'm doing unpopular thing, I should say apple, wrong fruit.
I'm mentioning the wrong fruit.
Suppose you take your phone.
if you learn to use it it'll work for you, if I learn to use it, it'll work for me.
it doesn't matter whether we agree with each other or not.
but if you learn to use it it'll work.
so it is offered as a technology, so that every human being can make use of it,
to the millions of people out there across the planet.
They're made like this today, just as much as they close their eyes tears
of ecstasy will drop out of them.
I can show you millions like this.
so this is the basis of what we're doing.. and that's why you call
it inner science and inner technology.
- how to make this happen at its ultimate possibility?
not in a mediocre way, in its fullest dimension.
See, suppose you plant an Apple tree.
if you give it the necessary ambience and nourishment,
it will become a full-fledged Apple-tree.
so the seed of the apple has all this.
similarly every human being if he is given an inner
ambience and a nourishment that is needed within himself, he will become a full-blown
human experience.
it does not need any teaching or outside inputs. all it needs is a perfect
ambience.
so the technology is only about providing that inner ambiance so that you,
your own intelligence, your own logic, your own emotions do not turn against you.
right now that is what humanity is suffering from.
it's not about what somebody else is doing to you.
You're own intelligence, you're own emotions, you're own chemistry is turning
against you, in the form of ailments, in the form of different sufferings. because over
70% of the world's human ailments are self-created.
it's happening from within the system.
that means our own bodies turning against us, because
we don't know how to keep it.. - you said an interesting thing at the world peace day,
which was wonderful to hair and so many people from all walks of life here, in harmony, I
loved that.
you mentioned that you thought it was funny that in our country were hung
up on stress management.
Can you just shared that? that was brilliant actually, because
I'm always thinking how can I manage my stress?
- management is for things that are precious to us.
we manage things that are precious to us, your family, your money, your business
and home must be managed.
why should you manage something that you don't need.
to stress is not a part of you.
stress is a certain friction that is happening within your own system.
if your mind took instructions from you, would it be stressful I'm asking.
would you generate stress or joy?
Joy, definitely, so right now the problem is not of stress.
the problem is, your mind is not taking instructions from
you.
suppose you're driving your car and if your car is not taking instructions from
you, what will happen?
Dangerous, isn't it? similarly life is dangerous, when your
own mind and your own body does not take instructions from you, so people are existing with such
a danger all the time. and it makes them very anxious because they know, they're not in
control of themselves.
-when you are mindful and you think about.. no, I am not talking
about being mindful.
–okay.
You're getting Buddhist.
I'm not talking about mindfulness, I'm just saying, this body and this mind are
two instruments, two faculties for you to make this journey of life.
two important faculties.
It's like your car ,let's say, this is hardware, this is software.
these two things must take instructions from you.
if they're not taking instructions from you, we have
to look where the keyboard is.
We can do a simple experiment, you will see how subtle
this body is, means if you hold your palms facing down, and breath, you will see the
maximum expansion contraction will happen in the lower lobe of the lung.
if you just turn it around ,It'll move to the middle
lobe. you can experiment and see. and cross your legs.. and cross my legs, do I need to
put my leg under here, like this?
No, hold it this way, all five fingers together.
Keep your Spine erect, breathe slightly deeper than normal, eyes closed, notice were the
maximum expansion ..which part of your lung expends most.
Just notice that.
turn it around and notice this.
Do you distinctly notice this?
Yes.. so when you do this its in the lower lobe of the lung.
When you turned this around it's in the middle of the lungs, so
you notice it either in your diaphragm, or in your chest .
So, just as much as turning your hands around, the very way you breathe is altering itself
.it's not just a breath, a very way your life energies functioning is altering itself.
now how many times in a day unconsciously are
you doing this?
Too many times.
And now you set your energies into a turmoil and hoping
to be peaceful.
life doesn't work like this.
this is like you don't know what the three pedals in your car are.
Just kick them around whenever you feel like.
you know what a jerky driver you will be?
- right.
right now that's what it is.
it is not that there are human beings here, who do not know what is peace,
being peaceful or joyful or blissful or loving.
they know that.
only thing it is not sustainable.
if it happens in one moment another ..it does falls down.. just about, it is threatened
just by anything around you simply because you're driving by accident.
without you been given a most sophisticated gadget in
the planet is this human system.
all right? but you are trying to use hammer and anvil
technology .you've been given a super computer , if you touch it it'll change its dimensions.
but you are still doing hammer and anvil technology and think it will work.
it will work in a minimal way.
not in its ultimate way.
-what I call monkey mind I just can't settle, I
don't settle , I am not still . if I close my eyes to be quiet my mind's going in all
these different places.
That's not being peaceful.
We'll do a simple experiment with you.
just for five seconds or 10 seconds you close your eyes and just make an attempt,
that you should not think of a monkey for the 10 seconds.
10 seconds you should not think of a monkey. you failed many times.
what you need to understand is, the nature of the mind such ,if you say I don't want
something only that will happen, okay? so to this mind somebody told you, this is something
that you should not think about, so that's a full-time job for most people.
whatever was told to them- do not think about it- that's
become the full-time job.
so without understanding the fundamental nature of the mind, you trying
to handle it.
its not going to work like that.
How do you think we can live in harmony, together ? It seems like there's so much strife in
our world, anger.. to create strife and conflict it takes effort, to be in harmony doesn't
take any effort .if you just sit here you are in perfect harmony, no conflict happening.
conflict takes effort, so why are people getting into conflict ? There is a need for human
being to be little more than what he or she is right now.
if that little more happens -little more, if that little more happens
-little more.
so if you look at this ,you're trying to essentially expand.
initially you think this is about money, this about wealth,
this about property, this is about something or something, but actually if you look at
it, the only longing you have is -you want to expand.
your currency may be different, depending upon what you are exposed to in
your life.
Whatever each individual is exposed to accordingly somebody's looking for money,
somebody's looking for knowledge, somebody's looking for love, but basically expansion
is what we are looking for.
so how much expansion will settle you for good? if you look at this,
you need boundless expension.
that is the nature of the human being.
nothing wrong with that.
the problem is right now we are so identified with our physical nature, we think we have
to stretch ourselves physically.
Physically if you try to stretch your boundary, you will
encroach upon me and I will have confronted you in some way and there is going to be a
conflict.
so the problem is -what is an inner longing to expand limitlessly, we are trying
to give a physical expression to it .physical always comes with a defined boundary.
only because there is a defined boundary for this
body you can call it the physical body.
if I take away the boundaries of your body, this
will not be a physical body.
physical comes with a defined boundary.
but your longing is to become boundless and that longing has
to find expression in a way which is beyond physicality. because that is not being cultivated
in a society.
every human being is in a turmoil and in the struggle ,as if life is a struggle.
So, a lot of people are building out philosophies saying that life itself is a struggle.
life is not a struggle.
your mind is a struggle, because you don't know how to keep it.
mind is a miracle.
A miracle has been transformed into a misery manufacturing machine right
now.
because such a great potential, there not been taught how to use, did you read the
user's manual?
No, I didn't read it, that's the problem right?
That's great . How often do you come to Tennessee.
Two- three times a year I come. and I know people learn from
you while you're here and that is an opportunity for all right?
I mean people can come and visit.
-Yes, there are programs being conducted here and also in various cities.It is also
offered online, the people can actually do the initial part of the program online and
just the practice part they can come and learn.
So that opportunity is also there.
what I see is,if America drinks Coca-Cola the rest
of the world's drinking Coke,if America wears pants which are tone , the whole world is
wearing that.
if America meditates the world will meditate.
So America must meditate.
this is the responsibility for the American people.
when people are willing to imitate what you do, you must do the right things.
it's like raising children in your house.
the children are looking at you and imitating what you
do, so what you do matters now.
So it very much matters ,what the American people do
today, matters for the rest of the world, so do the right thing.
thanks ,thank you ,but we are just about out of time and I wanted
to just leave that one story about planting trees.
you shared that at world peace day, about you saw a need and you saw the way to
handle that need.
We all have that capability right? one person has the capability to make
a difference.
when I saw, that the green cover in southern India was very low and we had
to increase it it took 6 to 8 years for me, I took 6 to 8 years planting trees in people's
minds, because that is the hardest terrain.
once I successfully did that, now in the remaining 5-6 years we've planted 17 million trees
and increased the green cover by 7.2% according to official figures with a Google maps, say
its around 9 to 10%.
so this was not done by any great funding or a big organization
behind .. no. just ordinary people.
it is just that ,if it takes root in our minds after
that making it happen in the world is not a great difficulty.
and one person can make a difference.
I wouldn't say I did it all, millions of people stood up and did it.
Thank you for this time, I just want to thank you
so much.
it's been a joy getting to have this opportunity to visit with you.
Its been a joy to get to next..
Its time you engineer yourself now, We will teach you the way.
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