>> CONTINUING OUR CONVERSATION
ABOUT CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM,
YOU, THE VOTERS JUST APPROVED
THIS BACK IN NOVEMBER.
STATE QUESTION 780, 781, PASSED
WITH 58%.
NOW SOME OF OUR LAWMAKERS TRYING
TO TWEAK THE LANGUAGE AFTER IT'S
BEEN APPROVED.
KRIS STEELE, THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR
OF THE BILL, JOINS US TO ANSWER
VIEWER QUESTIONS.
PEOPLE JUST CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT
THE LAW WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED
FOR AND WHY WE WOULD MAKE SOME
CHANGES.
TONY SAYS, THEY ARE MAKING
CHANGES BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE TOO
DUMB TO DECIDE THESE QUESTIONS
WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE
CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR VOTES.
AT LEAST OUR POLITICIANS REALIZE
WHAT WILL REALLY HAPPEN IF THESE
LAWS STAND AS WRITTEN.
DO YOU THINK VOTERS KNEW WHAT
THEY WERE VOTING ON?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THE PEOPLE IN OKLAHOMA, THE
VOTERS IN OKLAHOMA ARE PLENTY
CAPABLE.
THEY ARE SMART.
THEY ARE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS
ON THEIR OWN.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
THERE'S NO REASON TO BELIEVE THE
VOTERS IN OKLAHOMA AREN'T SMART
ENOUGH TO MAKE THEIR OWN
DECISIONS.
THEY ARE QUITE CAPABLE.
AGAIN, THE VOTERS HAVE EXPRESSED
THEIR WILL AND EXPRESSED THEIR
WISHES ON THE FACT THAT WE
SHOULD ADDRESS ISSUES OF
ADDICTIO
ADDICTION WITH TREATMENT.
THE VOTERS HAVE SAID IT'S NOT
OK.
THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS AND THERE
ARE POLITICIANS WHO DISDISAGREE
WITH THAT PREMISE.
I SUSPECT THAT'S WHY WE'RE
SEEING THE PUSHBACK.
>> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT NUMBERS
FOR WOMEN INCARCERATED AND FOR
OKLAHOMANS INCARCERATED OVERALL.
>> SO OKLAHOMA'S INCARCERATE
RATE IS 78% HIGHER THAN THE
NATIONAL AVERAGE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE INCARCERATE
WOMEN IN OUR STATE AT TWO AND A
HALFTIMES THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
WE HAVE LED THE NATION IN FEMALE
INCARCERATIONS SINCE 1991.
THE NUMBERS CONTINUE TO GET
WORSE.
UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF THE WOMEN
INCARCERATED IN OKLAHOMA ALSO
HAVE CHILDREN AND IN MANY CASES
THEY ARE THE PRIMARY CAREGIVERS
FOR KIDS.
IT BEGINS TO BE A GENERATIONAL
ISSUE.
CHILDREN OF INCARCERATED PARENTS
ARE SEVEN TIMES MORE LIKELY TO
BECOME INCARCERATED AT SOME
POINT IN TIME.
>> KIND OF THAT CYCLE.
>> GENERATIONAL CYCLE.
>> YOU'RE HOPING TO TREAT THE
MENTAL ILLNESS ASPECT OF THESE
NONVIOLENT DRUG OFFENDERS.
NICOLE SAID, THERE'S A REASON
THERE ARE SO MANY REPEAT
OFFENDERS.
THAT WAS SOMETHING WE TALKED
ABOUT.
ARE YOU AFRAID WITH THE DRUG
ADDICTS THAT YOU ARE TAKING AWAY
ROCK BOTTOM.
THEY THINK I'LL BE SLAPPED WITH
A MISDEMEANOR.
YOU'RE TAKING WITH THE FELONY,
THE ROCK BOTTOM.
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
WE'RE KEEPING HOPE ALIVE BY NOT
TAGGING THAT INDIVIDUAL WITH A
SCARLET LETTER OF A FELONY
CONVICTION FOR LIFE.
THE REASON WE SEE REPEAT
OFFENDERS IN OKLAHOMA IS BECAUSE
WE ARE SIMPLY NOT PROVIDING
ADEQUATE TREATMENT AND MENTAL
HEALTHCARE TO ADDRESS THE ROOT
CAUSE BEHIND THE ANTI-SOCIAL
BEHAVIOR.
SO WHAT HAPPENS TIME AND AGAIN
IS A NONVIOLENT OFFENDER WHO MAY
BE BATTLING ADDICTION AND MAY BE
USING TO FEED A PERSONAL HABIT
WILL BE SENT TO PRISON FOR A
LENGTHY PERIOD OF TIME AND THEIR
WAREHOUSED IN A HOSTILE
ENVIRONMENT AND THEY TRANSITION
BACK IN THE COMMUNITY AND
BATTLING THE SAME ISSUE.
SO THEY ARE REPEATING THE CYCLE.
WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE
ANTI-SOCIAL BEHAVIOR TO IMPROVE
THE QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN OUR
SAFETY.
>> KRIS STEELE, WE APPRECIATE
THE TIME.
THE CONVERSATION CONTINUES.
ALSO FIGURING OUT THE FUNDING.
WE'LL CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION
WITH YOU.

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